Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th Mar 2008 10:05 UTC, submitted by Chezz
FreeBSD "Since the conclusion of the SMPng project, the focus of SMP development in FreeBSD has shifted from deploying locking infrastructure to careful profiling and optimization of kernel SMP strategies for increased performance on common workloads. FreeBSD 7.0 was the first release to benefit from this optimization work." The status of this work includes MySQL workload benchmarks and memory allocator performance in the new FreeBSD 8 branch. Also, here is a recent presentation showing FreeBSD compared to several other operating systems like NetBSD, DrangonFly, Solaris, and Linux.
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It would be nice...
by kaiwai on Tue 11th Mar 2008 12:06 UTC
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

I've gone to the FreeBSD.org; it would be nice if the updated their website. Their SMP page hasn't been updated since 02/25/2007 - I"m sure something has happened in 1 year!

I remember a while back FreeBSD core developers were complaining that they couldn't get enough programmers - and yet, when you look at their website, with the lack of regular updating, it screams, "there is no drive or passion in the project".

I know I'm going to get slammed for this, but lets face the reality of the situation, if a budding programmer is looking for a project to contribute to - are they going to contribute to a project that appears (through the lack of updating the website) on deaths door or look at a project where there is constant buzz, communication and drive to inform the public where the project is heading.

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RE: It would be nice...
by Oliver on Tue 11th Mar 2008 12:16 in reply to "It would be nice..."
Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

Most real programmers do not look at websites, it's something for the enduser at the desktop.

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RE[2]: It would be nice...
by kaiwai on Tue 11th Mar 2008 12:24 in reply to "RE: It would be nice..."
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Most real programmers do not look at websites, it's something for the enduser at the desktop.


Even so; if they're not going to update it, why have it? A 'real programmer' is that the same thing as a 'real Scotsman Fallacy'? come on, if you're a programmer or an end user, the first point of contact is the website, if no one can be bothered communicating information to the public via their front, then why even take an interest in either using the product or contributing to it.

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RE: It would be nice...
by sonic2000gr on Tue 11th Mar 2008 16:12 in reply to "It would be nice..."
sonic2000gr Member since:
2007-05-20


and yet, when you look at their website, with the lack of regular updating, it screams, "there is no drive or passion in the project".


This is not true. There is enough drive and passion in the project. A quick look at what was accomplished with 7.0-RELEASE is proof enough.

The website: It is rebuilt daily. Obviously, not all sections are updated very regularly. Keep in mind that a lot of the more technical stuff needs to be written by the people who understand them better: the coders. They are probably just hacking away now ;)

Documentation of FreeBSD tends to be of the best kind around, compared to any OS, commercial or not. Have a look at the articles, the handbook etc. These are in constant development and a lot of people are helping. Follow the mailing lists like -questions and -doc for a while and you will see what I mean.

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RE: It would be nice...
by Don T. Bothers on Tue 11th Mar 2008 16:22 in reply to "It would be nice..."
Don T. Bothers Member since:
2006-03-15

"I've gone to the FreeBSD.org; it would be nice if the updated their website. Their SMP page hasn't been updated since 02/25/2007 - I"m sure something has happened in 1 year!"

On the contrary, I find the FreeBSD website one of the more commonly updated websites. What you are referring to is a legacy page that has been kept there for historical reasons only. Since 2/25/2007, the SMP project has been deemed successfully completed and that page will no longer be updated. If you want a status of what has happened and what needs work, go here: http://wiki.freebsd.org/SMPTODO

"I know I'm going to get slammed for this, but lets face the reality of the situation, if a budding programmer is looking for a project to contribute to - are they going to contribute to a project that appears (through the lack of updating the website) on deaths door or look at a project where there is constant buzz, communication and drive to inform the public where the project is heading."

What project the programmer chooses really depends on what kind of programmer the budding programmer wants to be. If he wants to be a real programmer, the choices are pretty limited to kernels, compilers, languages, and databases. If you want to do kernels, I personally think FreeBSD stacks up better against Solaris and Linux as it is also an advanced kernel that gives you the opportunity to make an impact within the project in terms of both code and design, that allows you to work in a true team/project setting, and that provides for a consistent vision throughout. Unless you work for Sun, you will be basically restricted to bug fixes for life. Similarly, Linux development is such a mess with poor standards and a kernel that changes rapidly without reason, that also will lead any new developer to a life of bug fixes.

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RE[2]: It would be nice...
by Oliver on Tue 11th Mar 2008 17:59 in reply to "RE: It would be nice..."
Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

>if a budding programmer is looking for a project to contribute to

He will usually knock on the door of a suitable mailinglist as usual in every single free operating system, even in Solaris community.

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