Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 13th Sep 2005 14:09 UTC
PC-BSD "PC-BSD version 0.8 is now available! A lot of effort went into improving this version, and many thanks is due to all the people who have tested and provided valuable feedback on our support forum. This version now adds the Online Update Manager, along with many other fixes and enhancements. For a complete list of changes, please refer to the changelog." Release notes are here, download locations here. The various documents disagree with one another on whether or not this is the final or beta release.
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RE: RE[2]: PC-BSD
by on Tue 13th Sep 2005 19:21 UTC in reply to " RE: RE: PC-BSD"

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The mac way is the mac way... Every system has it's problems

Exactly the point I was trying to make. Which means the mac way isn't as ideal as some would make it sound. "I wish all these *nix distros would realize that Apple has the best solution[].." blah, blah.

On the other hand, the PBI system also aims to pass the responsability of app maintaining to the app creators and maintainers, which translates to this: Whoever makes an app must be responsible for it. The app creators are the ones who must maintain their work, not the OS developers.

I'm sorry but I disagree with that. What you effectively do IMO is passing the buck to the end-user, who has to keep watching the app creators and maintainers to make sure they are sufficiently patched up. We all know how well that works in real life, don't we? The only way around this is if there is a central repo for these pbi's, and if that's how things are supposed to work, I fail to see the point with it compared to a conventional repo.

if you have any ideas other linux os's dont approve come to PC-BSD forum and tell us about it. we like mad non working schemes

nah, you'll have to sort out your own mess. ;) I hope it doesn't come off like I'm bagging the etire idea, that wasn't the intention. I'm sure it's a good idea, for some users, in some circumstances. But claiming "the apple way" is the ultimate solution and everyone else should drop what they are doing, like the inital poster did, is going way too far.

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RE[2]: RE[3]: PC-BSD
by on Tue 13th Sep 2005 21:20 in reply to "RE: RE[2]: PC-BSD"
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Hmmm... As PBIs are self-contained apps, like Mac AppDir, it would be cool to have a kind of right click option "Launch this app" without having to install the program. Great for testing purpose :-D

Ok, one would have Ports + pkg_add + PBI installing the "Windows-like" way + PBI able to run the Mac way = more choice or more headaches ?

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RE[3]: RE[4]: PC-BSD
by tiiim on Wed 14th Sep 2005 13:04 in reply to "RE: RE[2]: PC-BSD"
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2005-09-02

I prefer the Apple way, who cares about all the empty code lying around.

Its up to the apple creator to maintain his or her app not the end user cos' most 'normal' people do not want to spend hours on the internet finding a stupid lib file and working out how to install it.

A central database system is also good that why i like the Debian way also (as well as freebsd etc and other similar ways).

But i never had any problems with the apple way whatsoever. Nope its not perfect but we all remember the depenacies problem baby linux had dont we?

but the old "let the end user worry about it" idea is gone.

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RE[4]: RE[5]: PC-BSD
by on Wed 14th Sep 2005 14:35 in reply to "RE[3]: RE[4]: PC-BSD"
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Yes, but the Apple way sucks really hard when it comes to updating the other 50 apps you installed yourself. Remember, only the OS and apps pre-packaged from Apple can be updated via Software Update...

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