Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Mar 2008 17:52 UTC, submitted by WillM
"Microsoft today announced its first collaboration with the open source Eclipse Foundation by committing provide engineering support to allow the Eclipse Standard Widget Toolkit use Microsoft's Windows Presentation Foundation. The move aims to make it easier for Java developers to write applications that look and feel like native Windows Vista, according to Microsoft."
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RE: What I find funny...
by arougthopher on Thu 20th Mar 2008 19:18
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I was just saying the same thing to a co-worker. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if this was just another way for Microsoft to try and fragment the community. Either way, I really don't care what they do with this.
I've done development on both Swing and SWT. SWT is great for quickly putting up a UI, but Swing is so much more powerful, and does not require loading 3rd party jars and libraries to make it work.
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... is that they are working with SWT, and not Swing
Swing doesn't use native widgets, so I am not sure what MS could do to help Swing out with WPF, other than perhaps provide look and feel documentation.
SWT on the other hand makes use of native widgets for almost everything, thus if SWT provides WPF support it's going to have to develop java wrappers for native WPF widgets. I imagine any assistance MS can provide to ease this integration will be welcome.
RE[2]: What I find funny...
by arougthopher on Thu 20th Mar 2008 19:52
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From the article ...
The move aims to make it easier for Java developers to write applications that look and feel like native Windows Vista, according to Microsoft.
So, the goal is to make it look and feel native. If that is the goal, then why not work with Sun to make the Swing Vista L&F have a more native feel to it? If they truly want to help Java, then why not take the more "pure" java approach? They state in the article that they want to show the community they are more open, but they are doing so by putting proprietary hooks into a windows-only version of SWT. My only hope would be that, whatever UI additions they add would be cross-compatible with the other SWT ports.
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... is that they are working with SWT, and not Swing