OSNews > Thread > "RE: Probably a case of too little, too late." by vimh

Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Mar 2008 21:37 UTC

Apple has released the first version of its browser, Safari, for Windows. Safari 3.1, which was launched on Tuesday, will run on Windows XP or Vista and, of course, Mac OSX. Apple released a beta for the Windows-supporting version in June last year. Apple has claimed that the browser is the fastest available for Windows. In a Tuesday statement, Cupertino said it "loads web pages 1.9 times faster than [Internet Explorer] 7 and 1.7 times faster than Firefox 2 [and] runs JavaScript up to six times faster than other browsers". Don't think you have Safari for Windows installed? You might want to check again.

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RE: Probably a case of too little, too late.

by vimh on Thu 20th Mar 2008 22:25 UTC in reply to "Probably a case of too little, too late."

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2006-02-04

I'm mildly amused by the prospect of running Safari on my Vista machine. I'll give it a shot.

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RE[2]: Probably a case of too little, too late.

by vimh on Thu 20th Mar 2008 22:56 in reply to "RE: Probably a case of too little, too late."

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2006-02-04

Yup, It's a browser. Ran it on Vista and compared to an IE 8 Beta and Firefox 2. Loaded about the same. Didn't get a stop watch out or anything. I dislike how it looks. The biggest issue is the centred title with the right justified file menu. You're just left with the huge gray spaces that feel empty. Honestly, sticking with the typical window theme of having the title bar being just that, a different bar looks a lot better.

I could go on...

But yeah, not having to go grab a Mac to test html rendering is nice.

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RE[3]: Probably a case of too little, too late.

by Morgan on Fri 21st Mar 2008 01:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Probably a case of too little, too late."

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2005-06-29

I dislike how it looks. The biggest issue is the centred title with the right justified file menu. You're just left with the huge gray spaces that feel empty. Honestly, sticking with the typical window theme of having the title bar being just that, a different bar looks a lot better.

This is mostly due to a major difference in design philosophy between OS X and Windows. In OS X, the menu bar is not part of any application; it's always at the top of the screen, separate from the application. It takes some getting used to but overall it makes things consistent. Back to your point, since the menu bar is not part of the app window, there is none of that annoying grey space on the OS X version. The app's buttons and url widgets are flush with the title bar above and bookmarks bar below (or tab bar if you've turned off the bookmarks bar). Obviously this isn't possible on Windows so they had to do the best they could. Personally I think it could look better too but when you're so limited I guess there's not much room for choice.

Back when Vista was still called Longhorn and there was so much speculation in the air about how much it was going to "borrow" from Mac OS this time around, I was so hoping Microsoft would do the global menu bar thing. I guess that would have been too similar, though.

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