Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Mar 2008 21:43 UTC
SuSE, openSUSE The next version of Novell's Suse Linux Enterprise Server will focus on migration technologies and virtualisation, in order to entice users from Unix and take market share from Red Hat, according to a roadmap announced at the company's BrainShare meeting in Salt Lake City. Version 11 of SLES is not due until the middle of 2009, but Novell has announced six main 'themes' for the release, including mission critical servers, virtualisation, interoperability, green IT, Unix migration and desktop Linux. Speaking of SUSE, openSUSE 11.0 alpha 3 has been released.
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RE: Short sharp reply
by alucinor on Fri 21st Mar 2008 06:31 UTC in reply to "Short sharp reply"
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2006-01-06

I agree, Sun has a chance to gain more share in servers and thin desktop clients with the Solaris kernel, especially if rumors are true they're working more with Nexenta and Canonical to create a Solaris *buntu derivative. Even if this isn't true, the open source world is mostly NOT the kernel, and Solaris can leverage the same code ecosystem as Linux. The only problem is that Solaris really only works best with Sun hardware, unless you do your homework and figure out the sparse driver support yourself, but it's doable. Only slightly worse than BSD, really.

The Solaris kernel is cleaner and easier to understand for newcomers, in my opinion. Linux kernel code is pretty hairy these days, as it supports more use cases, such as embedded, telecom, mobile. Solaris is primarily web server. But it's optimized for that case. Also, Solaris was designed in more of a clean-room architecture. Linux evolved organically and as a result there's many idioms and "vestigial" sections to navigate. And the hacker community isn't exactly forthcoming with getting you started -- Linus sets a pretty hardline "shut up or put up" attitude, but that's seeming to work for them!

Edited 2008-03-21 06:40 UTC

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RE[2]: Short sharp reply
by Don T. Bothers on Fri 21st Mar 2008 15:10 in reply to "RE: Short sharp reply"
Don T. Bothers Member since:
2006-03-15

I agree, Sun has a chance to gain more share in servers and thin desktop clients with the Solaris kernel, especially if rumors are true they're working more with Nexenta and Canonical to create a Solaris *buntu derivative. Even if this isn't true, the open source world is mostly NOT the kernel, and Solaris can leverage the same code ecosystem as Linux. The only problem is that Solaris really only works best with Sun hardware, unless you do your homework and figure out the sparse driver support yourself, but it's doable. Only slightly worse than BSD, really.


Actually, for me drivers aren't even that big of an issue. The two things that keep me from using Solaris is the installer and the patch management. The current installer is just so non-intuitive and slow. Every time I need a Unix and get the urge to install Solaris, I start the install and thirty minutes later, I am cancelling it and going with CentOS, FreeBSD, or Debian. The patch management is also very miserable. SMPatch is a complete dog. I know the native patch tools are great, and pca is a godsend, but it bugs me that you have to go to a third party script to have proper automated patch management. But besides those problems, there is nothing really keeping me from using Solaris instead of the other "Enterprise Linux". In fact, I would say there are plenty of reason to use Solaris instead.

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