The beta version of Ubuntu 8.04 LTS has been released. "Ubuntu 8.04 LTS server follows in the footsteps of Ubuntu 7.10 with even
more virtualization support and security enhancements - enabling AppArmor
for more applications by default, improving protection of kernel memory
against attacks, and supporting KVM and iSCSI technologies out of the box. The Ubuntu 8.04 family of variants, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, UbuntuStudio, and
Mythbuntu, also reach beta status today."
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Member since:2007-04-11
And a lot of new stuff that's not had much testing, gnome gvfs, selinux for starters.
I guess we'll see when the final is released?
Lets hope it goes well.Tested Gibbon and wasn't too thrilled.
Member since:2007-08-29
I had some problems with 7.10, but got them all worked out eventually. Right now, everything - everything - is working perfectly. Just in time for the next update.
I wouldn't mind some FF3 goodness (and hopefully a non-suck version of xorg), but I think maybe I'll wait for security updates to 7.10 expire before I upgrade to 8.04. Then get everything working again, and not touch it (except for updates) until the next LTS release.
Six months is too often for OS releases. I could get behind decently polished yearly releases, but I've been doing six month upgrades since 5.10 or so and I'm sick of it. Especially since every upgrade seems to break something really inconvenient at random.
Member since:2005-07-24
And a lot of new stuff that's not had much testing, gnome gvfs, selinux for starters.
How can a single CD distro have a "bloat factor"? What, specifically, do you consider "bloaty" about it? Selinux is an available package which you can apt-get *if you so desire*. AppArmor, is still the default. And gvfs comes with the updated Gnome. Would you prefer they stayed with 2.20?
This is an LTS release. So you can bet that they will not let it out the door until it's solid.
Member since:2006-01-01
Being an LTS release or not has absolutely nothing to do with the solidness of Ubuntu releases. Some other distros may only "release when it's ready" but Ubuntu follows a strictly time-based release cycle and they will always release on the predetermined date, ready or not.
OK, dapper was delayed for six weeks but that was their first LTS release, so it was a special case. But I don't think that they'd allow a delay like that to happen again, no matter how buggy the release turns out to be.
Member since:2006-07-16
"This is an LTS release. So you can bet that they will not let it out the door until it's solid."
Are you kidding? Am I the only one who's noticed that each successive Ubuntu release has gotten buggier? Perhaps there's a direct correlation to the fact that each Ubuntu release has gotten more ambitious. We all know what comes of overreaching ambition. What The Ubuntu developers need to do is skip a release cycle and concentrate on the myriad of bugs that have never been fixed or have been fixed half-assed by overzealous developers who would rather cram experimental and wow-factor features into Ubuntu rather than make it rock-solid and stable to use. Apparently Ubuntu thinks it's Microsoft.
Member since:2007-04-12
That CD is in fact only web-installer with graphical interface. Do not forget about that c.a. 20 gigabytes in repositories. In case of Hardy they fulfil 5 DVDs when downloaded.
Try to use Ubuntu as Windows/MacOS replacement without all that repositories - no matter on-line or off-line.
Member since:2005-10-10
Just because it's only one cd, doesn't mean it can't be bloated.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=714858
There's too many things that are installed and turned on by default. And without trying to start a flame war, mono is there and the two useless apps that require it, none of which I care for or want to use. And the second biggest biggest cpu hogging, hard drive churning, piece of alpha cr... err.... code no one wants - Tracker.
Now add restrictive drivers manager, displayunconfig-gtk, not at all bullet proof X and you can see for your self that one can surely bloat a one cd linux distribution if one so desired!
Member since:
2005-10-10
I'm in the same boat, though it's not looking too good for me. The bloat factor with this one is huge
And a lot of new stuff that's not had much testing, gnome gvfs, selinux for starters.
I guess we'll see when the final is released?