Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Sat 22nd Mar 2008 08:40 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless A few months ago Nokia released the third iteration of their Internet Tablet N-series, the N810. This model has some new hardware characteristics, and a brand new version of the Maemo interface. Update: I designed a clean background for you, to be used with the "Echo" theme. Download it here, check out how it looks like here.
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RE[3]: Internet experience?
by Eugenia on Sat 22nd Mar 2008 11:26 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Internet experience?"
Eugenia
Member since:
2005-06-28

> So would you say that the iPod gives an overall better browsing experience (at least, if you don't need Flash)?

Not really. I would say they are similar, but I think I prefer the full view of the N-series.

>It uses a user swappable Nokia phone battery.

It is swappable, but it's not a phone battery, it's much bigger than that.

>Do you know the limits of its video performance? Can it play full-res (800x480) without dropping frames, in any encoding?

Absolutely not. The DSP on the N-series was never used in its full potential by either Nokia or the hackers so there are many limitations: from the exact resolutions that work on the device, to hardware scaling and smoothing. Your best bet on the N-series is QVGA 320x240 XViD file at 30 fps (although you might want to consider 24 or 15 for even smoother performance). The iPod has much better video performance, it can playback h.264 versions that the N-series can't, and it can do so up to 640x480 at 30fps, without sweating at all. On the other hand, the N-series supposedly support more formats (although as I said in the review, I had many videos that were in the right format/resolution and didn't play right).

If you want a good internet experience and VoIP and IM and email and hardware keyboard, go with the N810. If you want a much, much better multimedia experience and "ok" on everything else, go with the iPhone or iPod Touch. However, remember, when the first apps for the iPod/iPhone will come out in June, you should expect thousands of apps by December. But don't expect more than 350 for the N810. So it all depends what you want.

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RE[4]: Internet experience?
by pxa270 on Sat 22nd Mar 2008 11:49 in reply to "RE[3]: Internet experience?"
pxa270 Member since:
2006-01-08

> It is swappable, but it's not a phone battery, it's much bigger than that.

It uses a BP-4L, which is also in the E61 and E90. Though you might argue that those are too big to qualify as phones anymore ;)

> Your best bet on the N-series is QVGA 320x240 XViD file at 30 fps (although you might want to consider 24 or 15 for even smoother performance).

Such a waste of that hi-res screen.

> If you want a good internet experience and VoIP and IM and email and hardware keyboard, go with the N810. If you want a much, much better multimedia experience and "ok" on everything else, go with the iPhone or iPod Touch.

But I want it all ;)
As it is, I think the Nokia is closer to what I want. And features like replaceable battery, keyboard, Bluetooth are things that Apple is just not going to do on the Touch, while better video and browser performance is something that Nokia could do in a next iteration. Too bad they probably won't, as the N8x0 seem to be rather low priority products to Nokia, while the iPhone/Touch are flagship Apple product, that they dedicate a lot of resources and manpower to.

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RE[5]: Internet experience?
by hobgoblin on Sat 22nd Mar 2008 15:15 in reply to "RE[4]: Internet experience?"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

so the N810 use a size smaller battery then in the N800 and 770? both of those use the BP-5L. same as in the N95 iirc...

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RE[4]: Internet experience?
by Machster on Sat 22nd Mar 2008 14:49 in reply to "RE[3]: Internet experience?"
Machster Member since:
2007-05-15

Eugenia,

I get excellent video using 400x240 which the Wiki also advises. I never feel I am missing anything, but I do wish the resolution went higher.

If someone wants the best multimedia experience in a Palm size device, the first one I would recommend would not be the iPhone or iPod Touch but the Archos line with their huge storage.

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RE[4]: Internet experience?
by hobgoblin on Sat 22nd Mar 2008 15:31 in reply to "RE[3]: Internet experience?"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

one can ask oneself, how many apps are really needed?

while the number of apps will be higher, what will be interesting is the features those apps bring.

right now im not sure what will be given a green light by apple...

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