Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 30th Mar 2008 20:34 UTC, submitted by michuk
KDE "Considering that the previous revisions were surprisingly unstable, I can honestly call this one the most stable of the ones I have tested until now. I experienced only one crash and the performance was more than satisfactory. Now I can be almost sure that when a stable edition of KDE 4.1 is published, I will definitely say good bay to my old good KDE 3.5."
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As a Mac user...
by kaiwai on Sun 30th Mar 2008 23:46 UTC
kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

I thought I'd never say this, but I think that in a couple of years time I might end up using OpenSolaris + KDE 4.x - it is looking very professional in the presentation Ultimately I do think that when push comes to shove, although I love my MacBook very much, I do think that for the last several Mac OS X releases, compared to the the opensource world, Apple has rested on its achievements with no vision for the future.

I guess the biggest things that one would be waiting on is the likes of Amarok, K3b, KOffice and a few others to be ported to the new KDE 4.x/QT 4.x framework. Once done, it'll provide a very solid foundation - I do hope, however, that they eventually adopt the webkit framework wholesale so that as users we can track and embrace all the changes/improvements which Apple has made to the framework rather than being two (or more) steps behind.

Apart from those critiques, I'm very excited about the future and look forward to future developments made by KDE developers - lets hope by then there is a KDE port available rather than it being just a 'project page' on opensolaris's website.

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RE: As a Mac user...
by KugelKurt on Mon 31st Mar 2008 01:18 in reply to "As a Mac user..."
KugelKurt Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm not sure why you put KDE 4 in a position against Apple/Mac OS X. Both are beneficial to each other.

1.: Apple is part of the Open Source world with projects like WebKit and CUPS or Apple's active development support of GCC or LLVM.

2.: KDE 4.1 will bring native support for Mac OS X. This means Amarok, KOffice, etc. all under Mac OS X.
Supporting a new platform like Mac OS X also means (at least hopefully) more contributors to KDE in general - regardless of the platform.

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RE[2]: As a Mac user...
by _txf_ on Mon 31st Mar 2008 01:33 in reply to "RE: As a Mac user..."
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Yup, on some projects they support each other and you can indeed run it on osx (not the native KDE experience tho) BUT they are on the whole competing products. Gnome and KDE are competing DEs and they also share a lot of underlying frameworks and both can benefit from each other.

I believe hes not putting down osx but just that lately they haven't been innovating as much. He never said it was bad, but If he'd prefer to run kde4 on solaris then there isn't any problem there

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RE: As a Mac user...
by evangs on Mon 31st Mar 2008 12:37 in reply to "As a Mac user..."
evangs Member since:
2005-07-07

I'm a 5 year Mac OS X user (started in 2003 with a G4 Powerbook). Previous to that, I started using Linux in 2000 with Redhat 7.1. These days, I'm using a Macbook which dual boots Leopard and Ubuntu 7.10 and I find that I'm spending a lot more time in Linux. In fact, since I installed 7.10, I think I've booted into OS X twice to open some pesky Office document that doesn't work in OO.

Don't know if you've done it yet, but you should give Linux a spin on your Mac. It works quite well and I'm rather impressed with it.

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RE[2]: As a Mac user...
by kaiwai on Mon 31st Mar 2008 12:40 in reply to "RE: As a Mac user..."
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm a 5 year Mac OS X user (started in 2003 with a G4 Powerbook). Previous to that, I started using Linux in 2000 with Redhat 7.1. These days, I'm using a Macbook which dual boots Leopard and Ubuntu 7.10 and I find that I'm spending a lot more time in Linux. In fact, since I installed 7.10, I think I've booted into OS X twice to open some pesky Office document that doesn't work in OO.

Don't know if you've done it yet, but you should give Linux a spin on your Mac. It works quite well and I'm rather impressed with it.


Well, I moved from OpenSolaris/*NIX to this machine because I need the applications on Mac OS X which aren't available on *NIX (Microsoft Office, for example). With that being said, given the nature of how fast software develops, don't be surprised that in 2-3 years I'm looking at a Lenovo Thinkpad loaded with OpenSolaris/KDE 4.x of some flavour which will have much better Microsoft Office compatibility. I'd use OpenOffice.org, but I can't stand it (slow, buggy, bloated) so instead I'd sooner wait for KOffice to be delivered - which is far nicer to use IMHO.

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RE: As a Mac user...
by Gorgak on Mon 31st Mar 2008 12:46 in reply to "As a Mac user..."
Gorgak Member since:
2007-05-30

Speaking of Mac + KDE,

which is the best Linux distro to try out on my MacBook? Which distro will let me use most of my MB's features with as little fuss as possible?

If said distro even has a live cd version, that would be super.

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RE[2]: As a Mac user...
by handy on Mon 31st Mar 2008 14:03 in reply to "RE: As a Mac user..."
handy Member since:
2005-07-06

I know some of my colleagues use Fedora for it. Seems pretty decend ....

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RE[2]: As a Mac user...
by evangs on Mon 31st Mar 2008 15:16 in reply to "RE: As a Mac user..."
evangs Member since:
2005-07-07

(k)Ubuntu. On my 1st gen macbook, nearly everything worked right out of the box. That includes wirelss, bluetooth and even suspend. The only thing I had to tweak a bit was the iSight support but that's working too.

Most hassle free linux distribution I've tried to date.

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RE[2]: As a Mac user...
by Elv13 on Mon 31st Mar 2008 17:04 in reply to "RE: As a Mac user..."
Elv13 Member since:
2006-06-12

I used Ubuntu and gentoo on my mac book pro 3rd gen. Ubuntu did work perfectly (not out of the box in 7.04, but in 7.10 yes (we did submit all bogs).

Gentoo with a mac portage reposity work fine too, but i am not able to get the wireless to work... Even with the same svn version of madwifi and the same kernel config than in ubuntu.

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