The Haiku project has reached a very important milestone. Bruno G. Albuquerque (bga) wrote the following note attached to a commit a few moments ago: "vnode_path_to_vnode() now returns B_NOT_A_DIRECTORY instead of B_NOT_ALLOWED as expected by POSIX programs. This allowed me to compile Haiku under itself without any hacks at all, so I guess this means that now we are officially self-hosting!" The official announcement can be found in the mailing list. In addition, there's a new Haiku alpha 1 status update.
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Member since:2008-04-01
I agree we shouldn't get overexcited, but I have to disagree when you imply Haiku can't be used as a day-to-day OS.
On the contrary, I'm posting this from within Haiku on real hardware! I also have R5 on this same system, and I can honestly tell you that Haiku is much nicer to work with. My network card "just works" without configuration (not only do I have to configure it in BeOS, but network connectivity is so flaky as to be unusable). In Haiku, the native resolution on my monitor is supported, whereas in BeOS I have to endure stretch mode.
Sure, I don't have many of the applications I have in Linux or Windows, but how is that different than BeOS?
Stability is quite good IMO. Rarely does the kernel itself crash. Speed is another matter, as the system hasn't been optimized.
So I guess what I'm saying is: Should we give the impression to new users that they can replace their installation of Windows, Linux, or Mac with Haiku and be okay? Of course not. But the OS *is* useable day-to-day, and it is quite stable given that it's pre-alpha quality. There's still plenty of work to be done, to be sure, but I believe Haiku's quality has already surpassed that of R5. (YMMV, of course, and I acknowledge that.)
Member since:2007-06-30
I'm pretty excited about all this. I'm not a developer but I've been able to set up a build machine and get Haiku running on real hardware.
It is very stable just not optimized like was said just before me (sorry forgot the dude's name).
Anyway congrats to the Haiku Team!
Member since:2005-07-27
On the contrary, I'm posting this from within Haiku on real hardware! I also have R5 on this same system, and I can honestly tell you that Haiku is much nicer to work with. My network card "just works" without configuration (not only do I have to configure it in BeOS, but network connectivity is so flaky as to be unusable). In Haiku, the native resolution on my monitor is supported, whereas in BeOS I have to endure stretch mode.
Sure, I don't have many of the applications I have in Linux or Windows, but how is that different than BeOS?
Stability is quite good IMO. Rarely does the kernel itself crash. Speed is another matter, as the system hasn't been optimized.
So I guess what I'm saying is: Should we give the impression to new users that they can replace their installation of Windows, Linux, or Mac with Haiku and be okay? Of course not. But the OS *is* useable day-to-day, and it is quite stable given that it's pre-alpha quality. There's still plenty of work to be done, to be sure, but I believe Haiku's quality has already surpassed that of R5. (YMMV, of course, and I acknowledge that.)
WHOO-HOO! Someone else who sees things as I see them! That's the spirit! See Haiku for what it can do and help others to see that same perspective, with hope and admiration! Haiku is where it is, today, because BeOS was good enough to be loved and admired by those who sought to help it continue life in the future... bigger and better than ever before! AUSA!
To one and all developers... KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!
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2006-01-24
ahh, this would be the cruelest April's fool joke if it were so. however it seems to be legit and thus so sweet!
like others I'm oh-so eager to try Haiku on real hardware as opposed to a vm. however, let's not get carried away and trumpet Haiku as a useable day-to-day operating system or some such when the public alpha is released as it will likely be quite unstable and slower than Beos R5.
creating an expectation that the alpha can't possible live up to could end up generating alot of negative buzz (particularly since people just don't seem to understand what alpha means in software terms) and give cheap ammo to those who for some reason has a compelling need to enter threads concerning alternate os's and spit.
long live Haiku!