Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 3rd Apr 2008 22:40 UTC
Windows Microsoft will shutter its Windows XP line June 30, as planned, ceasing sales of Windows XP Professional and Windows XP Home to retailers and direct OEMs, Microsoft confirmed to eWEEK April 3. The statement from Redmond executives ends weeks of speculation that Microsoft would extend the life of the operating system as users turn up their nose at Vista, the operating system meant to supplant XP, and OEMs argue lighter versions of desktops and notebooks don't have the juice to run Vista.
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RE[2]: Vista is the future
by ronaldst on Fri 4th Apr 2008 01:47 UTC in reply to "RE: Vista is the future"
ronaldst
Member since:
2005-06-29

you can't be serious, right ? I do not like Linux too, but having to choose between Vista and Linux I will probably choose to ... no. I will choose to dust off my retail copy of Windows ME.

How can I not be serious?

Check out the competition. If you choose Apple then you're stuck with restricted hardware configurations. Want a desktop quad core Intel CPU? Or an AMD processor? Too bad. If you choose Linux then you're on your own. A lot of people give up on setting an home page on Konqueror.

Do yourself a favour and try Vista. You'll find that most of the arguments against Vista are mostly hot air. Just because the angry mob at OSNews feels that anything labeled Microsoft is bad, doesn't mean that in reality it is.

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RE[3]: Vista is the future
by lemur2 on Fri 4th Apr 2008 02:00 in reply to "RE[2]: Vista is the future"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

If you choose Linux then you're on your own. A lot of people give up on setting an home page on Konqueror.


Open Konqueror.

Go to the page you want as your home page: eg:
www.google.com

Select the text that is shown in the address bar and copy it to the clipboard (Crtl-C).

Settings -> Configure Konqueror.

In the middle of the settings dialog box, where it says "Home URL" ... erase the existing text, and paste (Ctrl-V) in the URL you previously copied to the clipboard.

Click OK.

You are done.

PS: You are not on your own. Just ask a question in the right place, and someone will help you in very short order.

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RE[4]: Vista is the future
by google_ninja on Fri 4th Apr 2008 02:09 in reply to "RE[3]: Vista is the future"
google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

I know your intention was to show how easy it is, but really, I cant think of a single other browser that doesn't have a "use current" button ;-)

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RE[4]: Vista is the future
by autumnlover on Fri 4th Apr 2008 02:19 in reply to "RE[3]: Vista is the future"
autumnlover Member since:
2007-04-12

PS: You are not on your own. Just ask a question in the right place, and someone will help you in very short order.


Yea. But when you will ask too many questions, then you will become a "troll".

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RE[4]: Vista is the future
by ronaldst on Fri 4th Apr 2008 02:58 in reply to "RE[3]: Vista is the future"
ronaldst Member since:
2005-06-29

Open Konqueror. Go to the page you want as your home page: eg: www.google.com Select the text that is shown in the address bar and copy it to the clipboard (Crtl-C). Settings -> Configure Konqueror. In the middle of the settings dialog box, where it says "Home URL" ... erase the existing text, and paste (Ctrl-V) in the URL you previously copied to the clipboard. Click OK. You are done. PS: You are not on your own. Just ask a question in the right place, and someone will help you in very short order.

Nope. It didn't work last time I had tried it. Even with a login/logout. The Konqueror intro web page always came up.

Or maybe it was another of Kubuntu's quirks like the Adept database locking up all the time and having to drop to the command prompt to fix it. Or having to jump hoops to install Gnash in konqueror.

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RE[4]: Vista is the future
by Fergy on Sun 6th Apr 2008 16:38 in reply to "RE[3]: Vista is the future"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

Open Konqueror.

Go to the page you want as your home page: eg:
www.google.com

Select the text that is shown in the address bar and copy it to the clipboard (Crtl-C).

Settings -> Configure Konqueror.

In the middle of the settings dialog box, where it says "Home URL" ... erase the existing text, and paste (Ctrl-V) in the URL you previously copied to the clipboard.

Click OK.

I know this sounds easy for us nerds but most people I know can only comprehend 3 steps. Anything after that is too difficult.
1. go to page
2. right click home button
3. choose "make this my homepage"

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RE[3]: Vista is the future
by autumnlover on Fri 4th Apr 2008 02:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Vista is the future"
autumnlover Member since:
2007-04-12

I already tried in rc stage - it sucks even more than Ubuntu or Linux in general. And its not about drivers - its about whole experience. Vista is slow, Vista is resource hungry (one of my two home PC is based on Celeron 1700 and have 1GB of RAM - it is now five years old and runs XP and apps just fine) and Vista is in one of its aspects very similar to Linux - it "knows better what is good for me" - for example you cannot shut down all its "whistles" in UI to make it clean and fast like XP in "Windows 2000" mode.

Im absolutely serious now - I prefer WinME over Vista.

Vista in my home, in my private computer - yes, but over my dead body. Period.

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RE[4]: Vista is the future
by joshv on Fri 4th Apr 2008 13:30 in reply to "RE[3]: Vista is the future"
joshv Member since:
2006-03-18

for example you cannot shut down all its "whistles" in UI to make it clean and fast like XP in "Windows 2000" mode.


Right click on the Desktop, select "Personalize". Then select "Theme". In the drop down select "Windows Classic".

Now, I wish that the "classic" look and feel was XP's "Silver" skin, but alas, it's basically stock windows 2000.

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RE[4]: Vista is the future
by polaris20 on Fri 4th Apr 2008 14:53 in reply to "RE[3]: Vista is the future"
polaris20 Member since:
2005-07-06

I already tried in rc stage - it sucks even more than Ubuntu or Linux in general. And its not about drivers - its about whole experience. Vista is slow, Vista is resource hungry (one of my two home PC is based on Celeron 1700 and have 1GB of RAM - it is now five years old and runs XP and apps just fine) and Vista is in one of its aspects very similar to Linux - it "knows better what is good for me" - for example you cannot shut down all its "whistles" in UI to make it clean and fast like XP in "Windows 2000" mode.

Im absolutely serious now - I prefer WinME over Vista.

Vista in my home, in my private computer - yes, but over my dead body. Period.


Again, I'm not defending the MS zealot, but really, using an RC of Vista and making a judgment on it is ridiculous. Hasn't MS been around long enough to know not to use their OS before SP1?

Vista SP1 did fix a lot of things, and now it's fine on modern hardware. And by modern hardware I mean a $350 computer from Newegg.com.

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RE[4]: Vista is the future
by wrc1944 on Fri 4th Apr 2008 15:04 in reply to "RE[3]: Vista is the future"
wrc1944 Member since:
2008-04-04

Good Grief! In konqueror, to set any current page as the "home" page, go to menu bar, tab settings->Save View Profile "web browsing," and check Save URLs in profile.

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RE[3]: Vista is the future
by dimosd on Fri 4th Apr 2008 02:25 in reply to "RE[2]: Vista is the future"
dimosd Member since:
2006-02-10

Do yourself a favour and try Vista. You'll find that most of the arguments against Vista are mostly hot air.


Well, I did try Vista (for 3 months). Hell, that's why I'm posting this message from Linux ;-)

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RE[4]: Vista is the future
by kaiwai on Fri 4th Apr 2008 02:40 in reply to "RE[3]: Vista is the future"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

"Do yourself a favour and try Vista. You'll find that most of the arguments against Vista are mostly hot air.


Well, I did try Vista (for 3 months). Hell, that's why I'm posting this message from Linux ;-)
"

I tried Vista as soon as it came out; and I sold my laptop soon after. I've now got a MacBook with Mac OS X. Every time I am tempted by the likes of the PC world, I remind myself of Windows Vista, the broken promises and the lack of any forward looking direction that puts progress ahead of comprising for the lazy programmers in the third party world unwilling to update their code.

As for PC's running *NIX, there still has alot of work to go before it gets to the level of usability and software available as Mac OS X (software availability in the form of commercial third party applications like Microsoft Office, Creative Suite, Quark, and so forth).

With that being said, however, does it matter if someone is running Linux, Solaris or MacOS X? the most important thing, they're not running Windows - and that is what will hurt Microsoft, not the fact that Mac OS X or Linux or Solaris is winning, that somewhere along the line Microsoft is being hurt. Thats the important thing.

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RE[3]: Vista is the future
by lemur2 on Fri 4th Apr 2008 02:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Vista is the future"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"you can't be serious, right ? I do not like Linux too, but having to choose between Vista and Linux I will probably choose to ... no. I will choose to dust off my retail copy of Windows ME.

How can I not be serious?

Check out the competition. If you choose Apple then you're stuck with restricted hardware configurations. Want a desktop quad core Intel CPU? Or an AMD processor? Too bad. If you choose Linux then you're on your own. A lot of people give up on setting an home page on Konqueror.

Do yourself a favour and try Vista. You'll find that most of the arguments against Vista are mostly hot air. Just because the angry mob at OSNews feels that anything labeled Microsoft is bad, doesn't mean that in reality it is.
"

Or do yourself and your wallet an even bigger favour and try a recent GNU/Linux. Fedora or Ubuntu would be fine choices. If you don't feel able to install an OS, get a pre-installed system from ZaReason, System 76 or even Dell or HP ... at a stretch you can even get a low-end low-price system from Wallmart online.

You will get a fully functional, stable, secure OS and literally thousands of applications available to you for free, it will perform significantly better than Vista on the same hardware, it will be fully capable out-of-the-box (without the need to purchase extra products such as anti-virus or Office suite), and your data will be saved and exchanged in open formats that can be processed by software from any of several software vendors.

Edited 2008-04-04 02:42 UTC

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RE[4]: Vista is the future
by autumnlover on Fri 4th Apr 2008 10:50 in reply to "RE[3]: Vista is the future"
autumnlover Member since:
2007-04-12


Or do yourself and your wallet an even bigger favour and try a recent GNU/Linux. Fedora or Ubuntu would be fine choices


...and be sure that there are plenty of affordable Linux support companies, whose will be happy to address all your problems with xorg.conf, fstab, menu.lst or even help you to fix that broken GNOME calculator tool in Ubuntu 8.04 - and all this (and more!) at a very attractive monthly fee contracts!

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RE[3]: Vista is the future
by DrillSgt on Fri 4th Apr 2008 03:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Vista is the future"
DrillSgt Member since:
2005-12-02

"Want a desktop quad core Intel CPU? Or an AMD processor?..."

Well, if I want an Intel Quad Core I can get a Mac Pro. For the AMD I can use Linux or one of the BSD's, if I really want to.

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modmans2ndcoming Member since:
2005-11-09

*opens Mac and drops in quad core intel chip

wow... it works!

stop being a silly 10 year old and grow up please.

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RE[3]: Vista is the future
by apoclypse on Fri 4th Apr 2008 04:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Vista is the future"
apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

Oh Sure Vista taking all of my somputers resources and still running like crap is all just hot air. Nice try.

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RE[3]: Vista is the future
by Soulbender on Fri 4th Apr 2008 05:38 in reply to "RE[2]: Vista is the future"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

The future's so bright I gotta wear shades.

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RE[3]: Vista is the future
by Darkelve on Fri 4th Apr 2008 06:39 in reply to "RE[2]: Vista is the future"
Darkelve Member since:
2006-02-06

"A lot of people give up on setting an home page on Konqueror."

I get your point that with Linux there is more manual work to be done, but you're really stretching it here.

"Do yourself a favour and try Vista."

Funny...

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RE[3]: Vista is the future
by mind!dagger on Fri 4th Apr 2008 12:24 in reply to "RE[2]: Vista is the future"
mind!dagger Member since:
2007-06-26

Vista is an expensive transition system. They've already started work on its modular replacement.

I'm sure Thum will edit me down with Gestapo-like efficiency but "who cares" what others think about Vista. I actually like it since it works a little more like a real operating system should.

This is from a Linux, OS X and Windows server admin.

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RE[3]: Vista is the future
by thedaemon on Fri 4th Apr 2008 22:22 in reply to "RE[2]: Vista is the future"
thedaemon Member since:
2008-04-04

I personally run an AMD 64bit with Mac OS X with no problems, your comments about OS X are invalid.

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