Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 3rd Apr 2008 22:33 UTC
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It's always cool to see something a little unusual...
Unusual? Not even a little. I'm using WindowMaker (GNUstep's official WM) for almost 10 years now, almost exclusively on my BSD boxes. I've tried many, even KDE, but I always came back. Keyboard support is excellent (special WM and app functions controlled by additional keys on Sun USB type 6 keyboard), window handling is great, and the whole UI system is excitingly fast. There are many nice apps running as dock applets. And yes, I don't care for "inconsistency", I use GNUstep applications along with gv, xmms, gmencoder, acroread4, Gimp, Kino, mplayer, Skype, OpenOffice, K3b or Sylpheed. :-)
To the screenshot linked some posts above: I suggest having the doc icons on the right side 32x32 so they don't consume too much space. Hey, this even matters on a 1400x1050 21" CRT! :-)
And to those who say that the NeXT look is ugly... What are you smoking? I've always found the gray NeXT to be the most elegant-looking of any Unix GUI ever (and that includes more recent versions of NeXT, aka OS X)
In fact, I changed many of the standard settings regarding colors, but it still looks great. Eye candy does not matter to me anyway, because in most cases it consumes ressources and consumes time (accumulated for animations n stuff) which generates an overall feeling of slowlyness. But to those who suggest a more "modern" look: I do understand this point of view. The first impression that users usually get comes from their first view of the GUI. If it doesn't look the way they expect a GUI to look like (many are already spoiled by MICROS~1's ideas of how things are required to look like), they think the software sucks, no matter if it would eventually be perfect for their needs.
It's always cool to see something a little unusual... And to those who say that the NeXT look is ugly... What are you smoking? I've always found the gray NeXT to be the most elegant-looking of any Unix GUI ever (and that includes more recent versions of NeXT, aka OS X)
Sorry but I thought that NeXTStep looked bad in 1988. It may be elegant, but if it doesn't have appeal, other than its elegance, it's going to end up in a museum, not on someone's desktop. Moreso, for an optional desktop environment.
I always thought that BeOS was far more pleasant to use and achieved a lot of the same design goals. Mac OS X Leopard has finally gotten to a point where it's comfortable, and without 6 different styles. GNOME 2.20 isn't bad but I miss the original design, as it looked less like Win95 et al. and the same with KDE.
Sorry but I thought that NeXTStep looked bad in 1988. It may be elegant, but if it doesn't have appeal, other than its elegance, it's going to end up in a museum, not on someone's desktop. Moreso, for an optional desktop environment.
Sorry, but that is really your personal opinion. I thought NeXT looked great back then.. .and it still looks fine. I love an UI which doesn't come into your way. Also it is a nice combination of Look and Ergonomics, since many details of the GUI are not designed with the same user access guidelines as windows.
After all, compare win95 to win31. Look at the style of the widgets, the colors (not the ugly icons). They maintained most of the old windows feel, but the Look is clearly NeXT inspired! For me, the first thing to do on XP or Vista is to turn of the plastic/rubber look.





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It's always cool to see something a little unusual... And to those who say that the NeXT look is ugly... What are you smoking? I've always found the gray NeXT to be the most elegant-looking of any Unix GUI ever (and that includes more recent versions of NeXT, aka OS X)