Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th Apr 2008 12:57 UTC, submitted by estherschindler
Windows "In a session at the Gartner Emerging Trends conference today, analysts Neil MacDonald and Michael Silver identified many reasons that Windows (and thus Microsoft) are in trouble. Microsoft's operating system development times are too long and they deliver limited innovation; their OSs provide an inconsistent experience between platforms, with significant compatibility issues; and other vendors are out-innovating Microsoft. That gives enterprises unpredictable releases with limited value, management costs that are too high, and new releases that break too many applications and take too long to test and adopt. With end users bringing their own software solutions into the office... Well, it's just a heck of a sad story for Microsoft."
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RE: Microsoft is in trouble?
by RGCook on Thu 10th Apr 2008 18:12 UTC in reply to "Microsoft is in trouble?"
RGCook
Member since:
2005-07-12

MS is now a victim of their own monopoly. They can't provide real innovation so folks are sticking/downgrading to XP. Office 2007 is another example. They change the UI but can't deliver a fundamentally better product. While this protects them for now (I agree with your point), it can't hold the barbarians at the gate out forever. Their tools and weapons (FOSS, Linux) are evolving fast and the attack against the empire is starting to take its toll.

I have my doubts that Windows 7 will turn this around. Vista is symptomatic of a broken culture, failed leadership and lost enthusiasm. I find it curious that the corporation shows these signs as Bill G has progressively transitioned to focusing on his foundation.

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RE[2]: Microsoft is in trouble?
by REM2000 on Thu 10th Apr 2008 18:46 in reply to "RE: Microsoft is in trouble?"
REM2000 Member since:
2006-07-25

I agree ive had lots of blurb from Microsoft regarding selling Vista against XP, Exchange 2007 against 2000/03 and event 4.5. As you have stated really the main competition comes from Microsoft itself, why bother upgrading when all of the features of Office were pretty much met in Office 97, let alone, 2000/XP/03/07.

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siki_miki Member since:
2006-01-17

With OSS you get improved version of a software for free. With MS you have to pay, for _any_ improvement expect obvious bug-fixes and security improvements. So MS products never get properly polished, instead you get a new version each two years, which again has it's own set of deficiencies (as any version X.0.0 software). Maybe they should learn from Apple.

Also MS tends to change apps, like their UI, just for sake of changing it, so that it would have a new and shiny product look. OK, service packs are exception, but that happens too rarely, and often brings just a load of quite conservative bugfixes.

Big problem for MS is that this isn't the era of rapid informatisation anymore. Selling now means mostly replacing old version with a new, and, in many cases, retraining of staff. No wonder why businesses tend to stay with old versions as long as possible.

With OSS it's different. Community-based approach doesn't allow cutting out a good working part, until no one complains (after a long bitrotting). So software gets upgrades more carefully, incrementally, caring for example about users with old distributions.

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6c1452 Member since:
2007-08-29

I use office 97 at work. I honestly didn't notice the difference until I noticed a few usability bugs and went to help->about.

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RE[2]: Microsoft is in trouble?
by Priest on Thu 10th Apr 2008 19:50 in reply to "RE: Microsoft is in trouble?"
Priest Member since:
2006-05-12

"Office 2007 is another example. They change the UI but can't deliver a fundamentally better product."

I use Office 2007 for school because it is required. There are only a few minor features that are useful, but the layout of the UI has change some and ALL of the formats are incompatible with even Office 2003. Now that ISO has sanctioned OOXML (Office Open XML, not to be confused with Open Office!) as an official standard it looks like they have succeeded in moving the goal posts again.

Office is a staple product in modern business, and it is only a matter of time before companies adopt it again making it nearly impossible for companies to use a competing office product.

The standard has been criticized by many as being intentionally complex and if by some chance some other competitor did succeed in implementing it they would simply move the goal posts again.

That win alone will ensure their dominance for quite a while. Honestly the only chance we really have is to ask ISO to overturn the standard (see noooxml.org).

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MordEth Member since:
2006-07-16

Hopefully the businesses will have the sense to look at the problems with Office 2007 before it comes back to bite them. I've seen a few too many places that think that password-protecting documents (e.g. financial spreadsheets) constitutes proper security, and if you do that with Excel 2007's new spreadsheet format, it can be defeated with unzip and a text editor.

(You can read how on http://ooxmlisdefectivebydesign.blogspot.com/, in addition to reading other amusingly sad commentary on OOXML.)

Of course, we all know that Microsoft places security first and foremost, because they've told us so. ;)

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