Reinventing GTK: Envisioning the Future of the Toolkit
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th Apr 2008 13:01 UTC, submitted by Rehdon
GTK+ Ars Technica has an article about recent proposals to evolve the GTK+ toolkit: "The developers of GTK are preparing for a major overhaul that aims to resolve many of the framework's most significant deficiencies and add next-generation features that will increase flexibility and simplify development. This effort is still in the earliest planning stage, but several intriguing proposals provide valuable insight into some of the changes envisioned by prominent developers."
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RE[6]: Expand it!
by sbergman27 on Fri 11th Apr 2008 00:20 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Expand it!"
sbergman27
Member since:
2005-07-24

What about MonoDevelop and Banshee?

What about them? Are they included in a default intall by some distro? OpenSuse, maybe? Five apps != "many people are drawn to Mono". (And should MonoDevelop really count as an app?)

From current rawhide:

$ yum list | grep -i perl | wc -l
920

$ yum list | grep -i python | wc -l
332

$ yum list | grep -i java | wc -l
238

$ yum list | grep -i ruby | wc -l
113

$ yum list | grep -i mono | wc -l
43

Edited 2008-04-11 00:21 UTC

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RE[7]: Expand it!
by Rahul on Sat 12th Apr 2008 06:00 in reply to "RE[6]: Expand it!"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

Yum list and grep can only find packages have a particular word in them. As you can see a lot of packages have perl in their name because of CPAN naming conventions and Fedora packaging guidelines on perl.

What works much better to actually find which ones are dependent on a particular programming language is to use repoquery that is part of yum-utils package. As a example,

# repoquery --whatrequires python | wc -l

134

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RE[8]: Expand it!
by sbergman27 on Sat 12th Apr 2008 13:14 in reply to "RE[7]: Expand it!"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Thanks. I was unaware of repoquery but had been looking for something like it.

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RE[7]: Expand it!
by abraxas on Sat 12th Apr 2008 14:33 in reply to "RE[6]: Expand it!"
abraxas Member since:
2005-07-07

What about them? Are they included in a default intall by some distro? OpenSuse, maybe? Five apps != "many people are drawn to Mono". (And should MonoDevelop really count as an app?)

You asked if you missed anything significant. MonoDevelop is certainly significant considering it is arguably the best IDE for Linux. Banshee is also a very good application. All of the Mono applications listed are very polished and were developed much faster than equivalent applications developed in C. Look how long Anjuta has been developed, then compare it to MonoDevelop. This is the real advantage of Mono.

I don't really know why you wouldn't consider MonoDevelop an application. It's an IDE and a very good one at that as I mentioned previously. As for default installs, who cares. I run all of them on Gentoo and they all seem to be best of breed for what they do. I think that says something.

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