Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 14th Apr 2008 21:44 UTC
Apple The website of a Miami-based networking and security solutions reseller became inaccessible Monday, shortly after the company began advertising an unauthorized Mac clone for a fraction of the cost of Apple's cheapest system. Dubbed OpenMac, the USD 400 offering from Psystar Corporation is described as 'a low-cost high-performance computing platform' based on the ongoing OSX86Project - a hacker-based initiative aimed at maintaining a version of the Mac OS X operating system for everyday PCs. The website is back online now, and the machine has been renamed to Open Computer. Update: Psystar says they will continue to sell the Open Computer system, despite the fact that it appears to violate Apple's EULA. "We're not breaking any laws," they insisted.
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RE[3]: Cease and Desist
by macUser on Tue 15th Apr 2008 02:41 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Cease and Desist"
macUser
Member since:
2006-12-15

Because they probably have nothing to compare to Apple's legal team they will be stomped, but I'll cross my fingers for the little guy.


And hope they succeed in what? Toppling Apple? Then nobody gets the OS. Unless Apple _stops_ being a _hardware_ company hoping to see the little guy succeed is hoping to bring the company down.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a legitimate way to install MOSX on hardware of my choosing, but at the same time Apple doesn't make their money selling the OS. The OS sells their hardware!

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RE[4]: Cease and Desist
by Vinegar Joe on Tue 15th Apr 2008 03:32 in reply to "RE[3]: Cease and Desist"
Vinegar Joe Member since:
2006-08-16

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a legitimate way to install MOSX on hardware of my choosing, but at the same time Apple doesn't make their money selling the OS. The OS sells their hardware!


Apple doesn't make hardware. They simply slap their logo on hardware made by Asus, Hon Hai (Foxconn), Quanta and other Taiwanese manufacturers who also make Windows machines. Same companies, same factories, same workers.

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RE[5]: Cease and Desist
by kaiwai on Tue 15th Apr 2008 03:35 in reply to "RE[4]: Cease and Desist"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

"Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a legitimate way to install MOSX on hardware of my choosing, but at the same time Apple doesn't make their money selling the OS. The OS sells their hardware!


Apple doesn't make hardware. They simply slap their logo on hardware made by Asus, Hon Hai (Foxconn), Quanta and other Taiwanese manufacturers who also make Windows machines. Same companies, same factories, same workers.
"

Correct, Quanta IIRC is the worlds largest laptop maker. Hence, when ever I hear someone talk about 'Apple's superior quality' I can't help but laugh. I'm a Mac user, but I'm under not illusion thinking that Intel and all the other third party create 'special edition' parts specifically for Apple.

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RE[5]: Cease and Desist
by tyrione on Tue 15th Apr 2008 06:14 in reply to "RE[4]: Cease and Desist"
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

"Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a legitimate way to install MOSX on hardware of my choosing, but at the same time Apple doesn't make their money selling the OS. The OS sells their hardware!


Apple doesn't make hardware. They simply slap their logo on hardware made by Asus, Hon Hai (Foxconn), Quanta and other Taiwanese manufacturers who also make Windows machines. Same companies, same factories, same workers.
"

The hell they don't make their own hardware.

All the hardware is prototyped, designed, tested and certified by Apple.

They outsource the mass production but they most certainly make their own hardware.

Don't confuse development with mass production.

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RE[4]: Cease and Desist
by jasutton on Tue 15th Apr 2008 04:40 in reply to "RE[3]: Cease and Desist"
jasutton Member since:
2006-03-28

And hope they succeed in what? Toppling Apple? Then nobody gets the OS. Unless Apple _stops_ being a _hardware_ company hoping to see the little guy succeed is hoping to bring the company down.


The OS sells Macs, but recently, Apple has been making the majority of it's revenue from iPod+iTunes sales. It probably wouldn't affect them much to "allow" people to install OS X on third-party systems. This is especially true given the fact that most people that buy Macs in recent years do so more as a fashion statement than anything else.

That said, Apple has the right to create their OS in such a way that it is difficult to install on third-party hardware. However, I as the purchaser of the software have the right (see quote from Title 17 section 117 of the US Code below) to modify that software in order to run it on a computer.

"it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine"

Link: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/usc_sec_17_00000117----000-.h...

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RE[5]: Cease and Desist
by droidix on Tue 15th Apr 2008 05:05 in reply to "RE[4]: Cease and Desist"
droidix Member since:
2008-03-13

That's an excellent point, and straight from the law. I've read this passage before but must of missed the adaptation clause, which is essential for the legality of a hackintosh.

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RE[5]: Cease and Desist
by the_thunderbird on Tue 15th Apr 2008 13:43 in reply to "RE[4]: Cease and Desist"
the_thunderbird Member since:
2005-08-19

Where the heck did you get the idea that Apple makes most of it's money from the iPod and iTunes?

Most of it's money comes from Macs and always has come from Macs.

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RE[4]: Cease and Desist
by bert64 on Tue 15th Apr 2008 10:33 in reply to "RE[3]: Cease and Desist"
bert64 Member since:
2007-04-23

Look at Sun...
They give away Solaris for free (open source no less), while selling hardware for running it. Anyone can sell hardware to run Solaris, and bundle Solaris with it.
But sun provide a single point of call for both hardware and software, a single place that will support the entire stack which is guaranteed to work together.
Apple aren't much different, OSX is not guaranteed to run on non Apple hardware, just like Solaris is not guaranteed to run on non Sun hardware.

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