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RE: No One shoulders Responsibility in Linux Land
by kaiwai on Thu 17th Apr 2008 14:52
in reply to "No One shoulders Responsibility in Linux Land "
My another rant. Very popular distros like Knoppix, Ubuntu and PCLOS have Highly modified and patched up kernels. Try to replace ubuntu kernel with plain simple kernel from linus. It will Not breakdown system but suddenly most of your peripherals will stop working.
Thats why is one peripheral like printer works perfectly in Ubuntu will not work on PCLOS on exactly same machine.
Mr Linus will not take responsibility if my printer will not work with his latest kernel and HP will not take reponsibility for if printer is not working by changing distro, keeping same kernel version. No one will take responsibility but developers will blame joe end user..
At least you can blame Bill Gates if something is not working in windows. Thats why 90% people use MS.
Thats why is one peripheral like printer works perfectly in Ubuntu will not work on PCLOS on exactly same machine.
Mr Linus will not take responsibility if my printer will not work with his latest kernel and HP will not take reponsibility for if printer is not working by changing distro, keeping same kernel version. No one will take responsibility but developers will blame joe end user..
At least you can blame Bill Gates if something is not working in windows. Thats why 90% people use MS.
Here is something more basic, when you purchase your hardware, check whether it is Linux/*BSD or Solaris compatible; so if you do, at a later date, wan to dabble with one of those alternative operating systems, you know your system is compatible with the operating system.
RE: No One shoulders Responsibility in Linux Land
by siska on Thu 17th Apr 2008 15:18
in reply to "No One shoulders Responsibility in Linux Land "
The kernel, linux, is part of an OS, ubuntu.
So if you are going to use an OS, ubuntu, use the packages it provides.
So it has no sense saying "Try to replace ubuntu kernel with plain simple kernel from linus.".
Maybe you could help me, but I don't see highly modified "patches".
http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linu...
RE[2]: No One shoulders Responsibility in Linux Land
by Rahul on Thu 17th Apr 2008 15:41
in reply to "RE: No One shoulders Responsibility in Linux Land "
Clone the git repo from
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git
Do a git diff between this one and kernel.org upstream kernel.
RE: No One shoulders Responsibility in Linux Land
by Soulbender on Thu 17th Apr 2008 15:43
in reply to "No One shoulders Responsibility in Linux Land "
Thats why is one peripheral like printer works perfectly in Ubuntu will not work on PCLOS on exactly same machine.
No it isn't but thanks for playing.
Mr Linus will not take responsibility if my printer will not work with his latest kernel and HP will not take reponsibility for if printer is not working by changing distro, keeping same kernel version. No one will take responsibility but developers will blame joe end user..
At least you can blame Bill Gates if something is not working in windows. Thats why 90% people use MS.
At least you can blame Bill Gates if something is not working in windows. Thats why 90% people use MS.
Your twisted, irrational logic is awesome.
RE: No One shoulders Responsibility in Linux Land
by atriq on Thu 17th Apr 2008 16:08
in reply to "No One shoulders Responsibility in Linux Land "
My another rant. Very popular distros like Knoppix, Ubuntu and PCLOS have Highly modified and patched up kernels. Try to replace ubuntu kernel with plain simple kernel from linus. It will Not breakdown system but suddenly most of your peripherals will stop working. Thats why is one peripheral like printer works perfectly in Ubuntu will not work on PCLOS on exactly same machine.
No. If the device works correctly under ubuntu's kernel, it will work correctly under a custom one. When it doesn't, that means the custom kernel was configured incorrectly. There's no mythical make_device_work() call in ubuntu, it's all the same stuff made to appear different through configurations and patches. [/q]
Mr Linus will not take responsibility if my printer will not work with his latest kernel and HP will not take reponsibility for if printer is not working by changing distro, keeping same kernel version.
I bet he would if he had anything to do with that printer, but HP wrote the module and ubuntu configured your kernel. To assume responsibility of that would make less than any sense. No one will take responsibility but developers will blame joe end user..
At least you can blame Bill Gates if something is not working in windows. Thats why 90% people use MS.
1st: You can blame whoever you want. I blame Luke Wilson for having read this. He has about as much to do with this post as Bill Gates has to a broken HP Windows driver. At least you can blame Bill Gates if something is not working in windows. Thats why 90% people use MS.
2nd: I'm sorry it sounds that it sounds mean, but when a user configures something wrong, it is their problem, not the developers. That's just where the liability falls. Now if the problem is a bug, while developers like to be informed of this, liability still falls under the user in the OSS world; that's the trade-off for gaining the level of control of a program that the GPL/BSD/MIT/... license grants.
3rd: I was under the impression that the 90% population you reference are using Windows because it happened to be on the computer when they bought it, not because they evaluated the distribution structure of two separate platforms.





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My another rant. Very popular distros like Knoppix, Ubuntu and PCLOS have Highly modified and patched up kernels. Try to replace ubuntu kernel with plain simple kernel from linus. It will Not breakdown system but suddenly most of your peripherals will stop working.
Thats why is one peripheral like printer works perfectly in Ubuntu will not work on PCLOS on exactly same machine.
Mr Linus will not take responsibility if my printer will not work with his latest kernel and HP will not take reponsibility for if printer is not working by changing distro, keeping same kernel version. No one will take responsibility but developers will blame joe end user..
At least you can blame Bill Gates if something is not working in windows. Thats why 90% people use MS.