Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 18th Apr 2008 09:30 UTC
As of Late, the Haiku project has been making some major steps forward, most notably the ability to 'self host', one of the most important milestones for the upcoming alpha release. In addition to development progress, Haiku is also making a name or itself in the Free software world in general, by attending conferences, for instance. Last weekend, Haiku was present at the LugRadio Live USA 2008 event, held in San Fransisco.
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RE: Haiku needs an cd image release!
by umccullough on Fri 18th Apr 2008 16:45
in reply to "Haiku needs an cd image release!"
Member since:2006-01-26
Bottom line, Haiku needs a real release--an ISO image that can be burned to a disk and booted up on real hardware so people can actually see this progress for themselves.
You do know that you can create a LiveCD of Haiku yourself right?
For me, on my internet connection using *buntu, it takes maybe an hour to setup a Haiku build environment that is capable of creating an image - then you can create the first track for the CD (an ISO with a compressed boot floppy/El Torito) with a separate jam rule that was added to the build system in the recent months.
Caution: It's *really* slow booting to a LiveCD - and there are several applications that don't behave well in a readonly filesystem yet.
Now, will you be able to install from this CD yet? Probably not - unless you've already created and formatted a partition on your disk as BFS with another method.
Edit: Also, I haven't seen you posting in the Haiku forums or IRC channel about your virtual machine issues - many people seem to have no problems getting Haiku running in VMWare, QEMU, or even Parallels (ok, that one seems to cause problems). kQEMU and Virtual Box can cause problems currently - unless you change the virtualization settings (i forget what the mode is called). - See here: http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/56
Edited 2008-04-18 16:49 UTC
RE[2]: Haiku needs an cd image release!
by bornagainenguin on Fri 18th Apr 2008 17:30
in reply to "RE: Haiku needs an cd image release!"
Member since:2005-08-07
You do know that you can create a LiveCD of Haiku yourself right?
For me, on my internet connection using *buntu, it takes maybe an hour to setup a Haiku build environment that is capable of creating an image - then you can create the first track for the CD (an ISO with a compressed boot floppy/El Torito) with a separate jam rule that was added to the build system in the recent months.
For me, on my internet connection using *buntu, it takes maybe an hour to setup a Haiku build environment that is capable of creating an image - then you can create the first track for the CD (an ISO with a compressed boot floppy/El Torito) with a separate jam rule that was added to the build system in the recent months.
I looked into it and decided it was way too time consuming to waste a day on at that point.
/me turns in his geek card
Still, with you saying it only took about an hour, I might give it a try after all!
Also, I haven't seen you posting in the Haiku forums or IRC channel about your virtual machine issues - many people seem to have no problems getting Haiku running in VMWare, QEMU, or even Parallels (ok, that one seems to cause problems). kQEMU and Virtual Box can cause problems currently - unless you change the virtualization settings (i forget what the mode is called). - See here: http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/56
I didn't feel like having to register for yet another site. Incidentally this is also the reason I haven't bothered to get a Ubuntu Launchpad account. I dunno may be it wouldn't have required me to login or create an account, but I just didn't feel like dealing with it after I'd gone through the hassle of installing and uninstalling both VMWare Server and VirtualBox.
Thanks for the note, obviously I should have searched harder.
Still I think my base point remains valid--there are a lot of people who'd love to see what progress has been made with Haiku and they'd rather do it via live disc than any other way.
--bornagainpenguin
Member since:
2005-08-07
I've tried using the images Haiku provides in both VMWare and in VirtualBox and was unable to get them to work in either one. I'm sure I can't be the only one with this issue. Bottom line, Haiku needs a real release--an ISO image that can be burned to a disk and booted up on real hardware so people can actually see this progress for themselves.
This isn't because I'm new to emulation either--I've used console emulators for years (anyone remember Kgen the DOS Sega Genesis emulator?) as well as virtual machines like BOCHS, Connetix VirtualPC and Basilisk II, vMac, etc... I just can't seem to get these images to work though.
I know the biggest reason given for not making bootable images available is due to Haiku's inheritance of the way BeOS cd images are made--and I know those can be a pain but if I (and all those others) could figure out BeOS MaXPE, surely we could figure it out for Haiku! Just give us a chance!
--bornagainpenguin