Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 18th Apr 2008 09:30 UTC
As of Late, the Haiku project has been making some major steps forward, most notably the ability to 'self host', one of the most important milestones for the upcoming alpha release. In addition to development progress, Haiku is also making a name or itself in the Free software world in general, by attending conferences, for instance. Last weekend, Haiku was present at the LugRadio Live USA 2008 event, held in San Fransisco.
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RE[2]: Haiku needs an cd image release!
by bornagainenguin on Fri 18th Apr 2008 17:30
in reply to "RE: Haiku needs an cd image release!"
Member since:2005-08-07
You do know that you can create a LiveCD of Haiku yourself right?
For me, on my internet connection using *buntu, it takes maybe an hour to setup a Haiku build environment that is capable of creating an image - then you can create the first track for the CD (an ISO with a compressed boot floppy/El Torito) with a separate jam rule that was added to the build system in the recent months.
For me, on my internet connection using *buntu, it takes maybe an hour to setup a Haiku build environment that is capable of creating an image - then you can create the first track for the CD (an ISO with a compressed boot floppy/El Torito) with a separate jam rule that was added to the build system in the recent months.
I looked into it and decided it was way too time consuming to waste a day on at that point.
/me turns in his geek card
Still, with you saying it only took about an hour, I might give it a try after all!
Also, I haven't seen you posting in the Haiku forums or IRC channel about your virtual machine issues - many people seem to have no problems getting Haiku running in VMWare, QEMU, or even Parallels (ok, that one seems to cause problems). kQEMU and Virtual Box can cause problems currently - unless you change the virtualization settings (i forget what the mode is called). - See here: http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/56
I didn't feel like having to register for yet another site. Incidentally this is also the reason I haven't bothered to get a Ubuntu Launchpad account. I dunno may be it wouldn't have required me to login or create an account, but I just didn't feel like dealing with it after I'd gone through the hassle of installing and uninstalling both VMWare Server and VirtualBox.
Thanks for the note, obviously I should have searched harder.
Still I think my base point remains valid--there are a lot of people who'd love to see what progress has been made with Haiku and they'd rather do it via live disc than any other way.
--bornagainpenguin
RE[3]: Haiku needs an cd image release!
by umccullough on Fri 18th Apr 2008 17:58
in reply to "RE[2]: Haiku needs an cd image release!"
Member since:2006-01-26
I didn't feel like having to register for yet another site.
Fair enough. I'd really like to see more sites (including Haiku's) start using OpenID for this type of stuff - then no matter where you go, you just authenticate with your single OpenID from <insert_preferred_openid_provider> and not worry about registering everywhere.
Still, please understand that it's in the interest of everyone to report any issues you have and help the Haiku project volunteers to help make it better for testers and end users.
Still I think my base point remains valid--there are a lot of people who'd love to see what progress has been made with Haiku and they'd rather do it via live disc than any other way.
Don't get me wrong - I fully agree with you. The problem is simply that Haiku LiveCDs currently suck, and provide a somewhat disappointing experience. I didn't even mention above that hardware support is still an issue. Sometimes the kernel/drivers simply can't find the CD/BFS image and die in the middle of booting. There are still problems where SATA controllers screw up the original IDE driver, and there's a new IDE driver in the works (ata) but it doesn't have ATAPI support yet and only works in PIO mode still.
Thus, long story short (too late?) - Haiku isn't ready to be distributed via LiveCD yet.
Member since:
2006-01-26
You do know that you can create a LiveCD of Haiku yourself right?
For me, on my internet connection using *buntu, it takes maybe an hour to setup a Haiku build environment that is capable of creating an image - then you can create the first track for the CD (an ISO with a compressed boot floppy/El Torito) with a separate jam rule that was added to the build system in the recent months.
Caution: It's *really* slow booting to a LiveCD - and there are several applications that don't behave well in a readonly filesystem yet.
Now, will you be able to install from this CD yet? Probably not - unless you've already created and formatted a partition on your disk as BFS with another method.
Edit: Also, I haven't seen you posting in the Haiku forums or IRC channel about your virtual machine issues - many people seem to have no problems getting Haiku running in VMWare, QEMU, or even Parallels (ok, that one seems to cause problems). kQEMU and Virtual Box can cause problems currently - unless you change the virtualization settings (i forget what the mode is called). - See here: http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/56
Edited 2008-04-18 16:49 UTC