Linked by David Adams on Fri 18th Apr 2008 16:26 UTC, submitted by sjvn
Linux "Recently, both Novell and Red Hat went on record as dismissing the idea that the consumer Linux desktop is going to be taking off anytime soon. It's not? Has anyone told Asus and Xandros? Everex and gOS? How about Dell and Ubuntu? They're all doing great with consumer Linux desktops." The enterprise Linux leaders are not the ones making strides on the desktop. Does that mean that the Linux desktop has no future, or just that they've let their business focus let them drop the ball on that segment of the market?
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They are...
by Arakon on Fri 18th Apr 2008 17:01 UTC
Arakon
Member since:
2005-07-06

entitled to their own opinion. As I recall every year for the last 10 years has been called the year of the Linux desktop and each year it's... not. Jealousy is not an issue, making money is. Making Linux a better serer now, has gains now. On the other hand trying to make Linux a desktop might be profitable a some point in the future. maybe.

Linux has come a long way but it suffers from one major flaw. Not enough usability experts (ie stupid people). The kind of people it takes to write a kernel and awesome desktop graphic engines tend to become very disconnected from the end user. Combine that with an ego (like a lot of developers have) and you have a recipe for mediocrity no matter how great the code is.

Examples

Has KDE 4 gotten rid/given us the option of getting rid of the tool box in the upper right corner? What exactly is the justification for DEMANDING that has to be on the desktop?

How far can a user get in any Linux distribution without having to do something in the cmd-line? Yeah that black box that most people think is some kind of voodoo magic. Eyes get glossy and they go back to windows where they point and click and if it doesn't work they buy a new computer.

I love playing around with Linux seeing all the neat stuff they are doing, and I agree that some of the distros are getting close to that "Desktop for Stupid People" status (you think I can TM that?) but most users already have windows with a new PC, and just about any dumbass can turn it on and get on the internet with minimal knowledge.

So until "UbuXanPC-OS: The Linux Desktop for Stupid People" comes out. Linux will most likely stay a great server OS with a hobbyist following on the desktop. Remember stupid people probably outnumber you at least 10 to 1 in most places.

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RE: They are...
by 6c1452 on Sat 19th Apr 2008 03:28 in reply to "They are..."
6c1452 Member since:
2007-08-29

Can somebody explain to me what this "Year of the Linux desktop" is? When can we say it has happened? Do we need to have a DTE that is usable for newbies first, or are we holding out for 50% market share?

Start up your favorite default install and take a look at it. Do you see a web browser, office program and IM? Congratulations, you have a newbie-capable linux desktop. Now name one thing which can only be done from the command line and is not a power user function.

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RE[2]: They are...
by trenchsol on Sat 19th Apr 2008 12:20 in reply to "RE: They are..."
trenchsol Member since:
2006-12-07

I thin it is a matter of perception. For non-technical users Windows PC is safe bet. Millions of other people are using it, and they get along, somehow. They might run into problems with it, but millions of other people will run in the same problems.

Formatting hard drive and installing something else is not an option, because they have no idea how to do that. For them OS is as much part of the computer as much as motherboard is.

What does it mean ? It means only one thing, UNIX-like desktop operating systems (Linux, PC-BSD) are not backed up with appropriate MARKETING. Windows aren't perfect, most people can do their jobs on other systems. They just need to be convinced. Nobody will ever launch a successful consumer product without huge marketing effort, no matter how good it might be.

Marketing campaign would cost a lot, and it can't be done properly by volunteers. Not so small group of Linux people who resent capitalism and corporations would have to back off for good. Some hard-core traditionalists would have to go, too.

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