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RE[2]: Note to future contestants
by anomie on Tue 22nd Apr 2008 17:03
in reply to "RE: Note to future contestants"
Both of those quoted sentences are factual...
Let's not confuse facts with speculation.
You wrote: "It has also gotten some derision from Linux folks who are accustomed to getting that hype themselves."
In interpretive writing, you can establish that "[ZFS] has gotten some derision from Linux folks" by providing citations (which you did not provide, actually).
But appending "... who are accustomed to getting that hype themselves" is tacky and presumptuous. Do you have references to demonstrate that Linux advocates deride ZFS specifically because they are not "getting hype"? If not, this is pure speculation on your part. So don't pretend it is fact.
Moreover, referring to "Linux folks" in this context is to make a blanket generalization.
RE[3]: Note to future contestants
by jwwf on Tue 22nd Apr 2008 18:00
in reply to "RE[2]: Note to future contestants"
"Both of those quoted sentences are factual...
Let's not confuse facts with speculation.
You wrote: "It has also gotten some derision from Linux folks who are accustomed to getting that hype themselves."
In interpretive writing, you can establish that "[ZFS] has gotten some derision from Linux folks" by providing citations (which you did not provide, actually).
But appending "... who are accustomed to getting that hype themselves" is tacky and presumptuous. Do you have references to demonstrate that Linux advocates deride ZFS specifically because they are not "getting hype"? If not, this is pure speculation on your part. So don't pretend it is fact.
Moreover, referring to "Linux folks" in this context is to make a blanket generalization. "
+1. The author of this article is clearly a tacky, presumptuous speculator, short on references and long on partisanship.
Seriously, I know I shouldn't reply here, but in the light of the above revelation, I will. It is extremely silly to turn this into some semantic argument on whether I can find documentation on what is in someone's heart. If I could find just two 'folks' who like linux and resent non-linux hype relating to ZFS, it would make my statement technically a fact. Are you willing to bet that these two people don't exist?
Yet, would this change anything? No, it would be complete foolishness. Having spent my time in academia, I am tired of this kind of sophistry of "demonstrating facts". I read, try things, form opinions, write about it. You have the same opportunity.
RE[3]: Note to future contestants
by cfrankb on Fri 25th Apr 2008 20:57
in reply to "RE[2]: Note to future contestants"
> ...demonstrate that Linux advocates deride ZFS specifically because they are not "getting hype"?
I don't think he said one causes the other or is a result of jealousy. He merely pointed out that Linux advocates usually receive hype rather than derision but in this case many gave derision. I fail to see the "specifically because."







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Both of those quoted sentences are factual, and I think it's important to understand that technology and politics are never isolated subjects.
However, I understand the spirit of your sentiment. In my defense, I wrote the article both to educate and to entertain. If a person just wants to know about Solaris filesystems, the Sun docs are way better than anything I might write.