Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 19th Apr 2008 23:39 UTC, submitted by TheNerd
BeOS & Derivatives Every now and then, the Haiku mailing lists explode with emails about something called the distribution guidelines. The Haiku guys set up a set of guidelines with regards to use of the Haiku trademarks and logos; the "Haiku" name may not be used in the distribution's name, official trademarks and logos must be excluded, but the Haiku icons and artwork may be used. In addition to these cosmetic and trademark issues, the guidelines explain what is needed in order to receive the official "Haiku compatible" logo.
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Valhalla
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2006-01-24

koki wrote:
That is exactly the definition of distribution.

oh I doubt people downloading the weekly pack considered it a distro any more than they consider the nightly builds to be a distro, hence no confusion. had it been called Senryu from the start and had followed the rest of the 'distro' rules set up by Haiku inc then it would certainly have been a distribution, however it was clearly not intended as a 'distro' as it made no attempts to distance itself from Haiku nightly builds other than the inclusion of software. of course if Haiku inc feels someone is dilluting the Haiku brandname they should take action, I just disagree as to this being such a case. what's next, forcing a namechange of Haikuware to Senryuware?


koki wrote:
-"What's more, I even tried to bring Karl on board in order to develop a bounty system within Haiku (which is what the community wanted), and to that end we exchanged a few ideas via private emails. But one day he vanished and then suddenly sometime later he announced the bounties on Haikuware (that experience taught me that Karl is more interested in doing his own thing than in being a teamplayer)."

the Haiku inc way, or you are just not a teamplayer. you really conceal that animosity well. anyway, I get the bigger picture now, though I don't like it much.

conclusively, while I certainly want a lot to do with Haiku the operating system, I don't see myself as wanting to have a whole lot to do with Haiku the administration.

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koki Member since:
2005-10-17

oh I doubt people downloading the weekly pack considered it a distro any more than they consider the nightly builds to be a distro...


You have just confirmed what we have been trying to say all along: that people don't see the weekly packs as a distro means that they think it is Haiku, and that were the lines get blurred and the risk for misperception start.

the Haiku inc way, or you are just not a teamplayer. you really conceal that animosity well.


As I have already said, there is no ill will or hostility towards Karl. Also, Haiku Inc. is just a means to help the project achieve its goals, and just a reflection of the people who create Haiku.

As a project, we are group of people who work together. Anybody can join our mailing lists and participate; it may take a little finding your way around and some perseverance at first; but in general we are quite friendly and welcoming to anyone who wants to join the team.

However, if somebody chooses to work on their own with little to no communication, consultation and/or coordination, then that person will suffer from a self-imposed isolation. So, yes, to a certain extent you need to be a teamplayer if you want to be part of the action.

conclusively, while I certainly want a lot to do with Haiku the operating system, I don't see myself as wanting to have a whole lot to do with Haiku the administration.


I am sorry that you feel that way, though I have learned long ago that it is not possible to make everyone happy. Nevertheless, I am curious: what would have to happen to make you change your mind?

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Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24

koki wrote:
-"I am sorry that you feel that way, though I have learned long ago that it is not possible to make everyone happy."

amen.

koki wrote:
-"Nevertheless, I am curious: what would have to happen to make you change your mind?"

easy, just promise to send me a copy of Haiku 1.0 signed by the developers for my geek-stuff collection and all is forgiven ;D

seriously though, the only problem I've had with the Haiku administration would have been this case which I consider to be an unessecary hard-line reaction to a problem that in my opinion did not exist. you obviously do consider this a problem and this is where we can only agree to disagree.

while choosing when and where to throw down the rule-book is your prerogative, there's something to be said for choosing your battles.

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