Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 24th Apr 2008 05:52 UTC
Apple Yesterday (well, CET in any case), Apple posted its financial results for the second quarter of the 2008 fiscal year (which ended 29 March). While sales of Macintosh laptops and desktops soared to ever greater heights, and while sales of the iPod consolidated itself, the news is not so good for the iPhone. And the dodo will have an Apple TV to play with, soon.
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RE[2]: iPhone
by Glynser on Thu 24th Apr 2008 13:49 UTC in reply to "RE: iPhone"
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You might be correct, actually. I hate Apple ;) but I'd even hate the iPhone if it was manufactured by another company. It's too expensive, too glossy/shiny/etc, too restrictive, it's simply too "look what I've got" for me ;) and I'm simply not that kind of person.

But as I also said, I'm glad that Apple released this, because other manufacturers will soon catch up and release something less expensive, but more functional. There are already some clones available, and I'd bet that some of them actually provide better functionality for less money.

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RE[3]: iPhone
by Adam S on Thu 24th Apr 2008 13:58 in reply to "RE[2]: iPhone"
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I love my iPhone, and it has nothing to do with the fact that it's made by Apple. Here's why:

1. It integrates perfectly with my main computer. If you IM me, your "buddy icon" gets linked to your account in my Address Book which hands it off to the iPhone, all in one fluid shot.
2. It's a joy to use, both as a phone and as a internet browsing device. It's easy to read, easy to type on, and easy to manipulate. No other mobile browser has even come close.
3. Even ugly standards, like text messaging, are beautiful on the iPhone.
4. Google Maps is killer, and as you type in an address, you can easily insert the entry into a new or existing contact. Type "Outback Steakhouse Orlando, FL" and it will bring up all the information on the map and all the info - website, phone, address, etc - is available. Killer feature just killed 411.
5. iPod and coverflow. No other phone comes even close.
6. At work Outlook syncs to Google calendar, iCal is subscribed to my google calendar, which goes onto my iPhone. Beautiful integration of multiple services.
7. iPhone optimized websites. Yummy.

The fact is, people who complain about the iPhone usually are complaining about nonessentials like the phone being locked down. Every handset ever realized on Verizon (up until VERY recently) is more locked down than the iPhone. The iPhone started a phone revolution, and the only reason to dislike it is a person's own unreasonable dislike of the company behind it.

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RE[4]: iPhone
by Glynser on Thu 24th Apr 2008 14:02 in reply to "RE[3]: iPhone"
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Yes - they started a revolution, and as I said, I think this is very good. I just don't like this specific Apple revolution model ;) but if you like it, that's no problem for me, I even do believe that there are some people out there who actually love it for what it is. But you can't deny that there are also lots of people who just have it so they can SAY they have it, and there are also lots of people who like everything that Apple produces ;)

"and the only reason to dislike it is a person's own unreasonable dislike of the company behind it."

BTW, who says that it always has to be unreasonable? I have my reasons, actually. Maybe not everyone might agree with them, but that shouldn't matter, should it?

Edited 2008-04-24 14:12 UTC

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RE[4]: iPhone
by agrouf on Thu 24th Apr 2008 14:31 in reply to "RE[3]: iPhone"
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humm... I like Apple actually. They're inovative. Look at MacOSX! It's beautiful, everyone copies it.
But let's be serious here. Look at the N95 man!
It has GPS, 5mg pixels, videos, 3G, everything.
And you can install on it! I seriously believe OperaMini is better than Safari.
I don't dispute the fact that the iPhone is pretty, it sure looks better than the N95. But do you seriously believe people put down the iPhone because of unrational hate for Apple? Compare it with phones in the same price range. I don't care if it looks shiny when the pictures I take look like crap. I don't have a phone just to look at it!
Seriously, it is you who is unrational here. You fell in love with a cute box that have nothing inside!

Edited 2008-04-24 14:34 UTC

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RE[4]: iPhone
by hobgoblin on Thu 24th Apr 2008 15:20 in reply to "RE[3]: iPhone"
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yep, apple have always been good at integration, as long as you by their products...

can someone spell lock-in? imo (very much so) its not worth it...

oh, and google has this nice j2me app that does a similar lookup or just about any device. only diff is that it does not integrate with the phones address list (but then i rarely have to look up where most of the people on my phones list lives).

also, i would rather see pages that would adapt to any device that browse it rather then pages specifically made of a single device. i thought that IE only pages was bad, but iphone only pages are good?

Edited 2008-04-24 15:24 UTC

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