Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 24th Apr 2008 05:52 UTC
Apple Yesterday (well, CET in any case), Apple posted its financial results for the second quarter of the 2008 fiscal year (which ended 29 March). While sales of Macintosh laptops and desktops soared to ever greater heights, and while sales of the iPod consolidated itself, the news is not so good for the iPhone. And the dodo will have an Apple TV to play with, soon.
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RE[2]: Journalism Grade=F
by Jon Dough on Thu 24th Apr 2008 17:28 UTC in reply to "RE: Journalism Grade=F"
Jon Dough
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Editorial opinion / commentary is a tradition as old as journalism itself - if not older.


The distinction is that editorial/op-ed usually has it's own clearly defined place, and the editorial/op-ed staff is separate and apart from the news reporting staff. That distinction is becoming more and more blurred these days, and it affects the integrity of the news reporting process.

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RE[3]: Journalism Grade=F
by StephenBeDoper on Fri 25th Apr 2008 20:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Journalism Grade=F"
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2005-07-06

But none of that really applies. There are fundamental differences between OSNews and the sort of news organization you're describing - namely:

The distinction is that editorial/op-ed usually has it's own clearly defined place, and the editorial/op-ed staff is separate and apart from the news reporting staff.


One, the writing "staff" of OSNews is effectively one person these days - how would it even be possible for their reporting & editorial staff to be separate in that context (unless Thom were to develop some sort of odd bicameral disorder)?

Two, OSNews has never focused on original reporting - the main focus has always been news aggregation-with-commentary. How can editorial writing be distinct from reporting when there is next-to-no reporting to speak of?

That distinction is becoming more and more blurred these days, and it affects the integrity of the news reporting process.


I agree in principle, but again - I don't see how that point applies to Thom's article/editorial/commentary/whatever. The real problem is when news organizations/reporter try to present editorial opinion as factual information - but I don't see any indication that Thom was attempting to do so. Looking at the quote itself:

The Apple TV was not mentioned at all, so it's getting safer and safer to say it will join the dodo in the land of failed products, despite the recent software upgrade.


That's pretty clearly a statement of opinion - it's not prefaced with "some people say," or attributed to un-named sources, etc (the typical signs of "subtle" editorializing). And he's stating a thoroughly-equivocated opinion one to boot. He's talking about a potential indication of a possible eventuality - you can't get much more equivocal than that.

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