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Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu The Hardy Heron has taken flight: it's the second LTS (Long Term Support) release of the world's most popular distro. New features include the Wubi Windows installer and Firefox 3 beta 5. Grab a copy here, and check out Linux Format's overview of the release.
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RE: Another Ubuntu
by raver31 on Thu 24th Apr 2008 19:07 UTC in reply to "Another Ubuntu"
raver31
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2005-07-06

Yes it might look good, but the usability goes downhill when you try to add software to it as RPM sucks plums, and YAST is a pain.

If OpenSuse dumps Yast, then it might be worth a look, until then, I will stick to Ubuntu and PC-BSD

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RE[2]: Another Ubuntu
by orestes on Thu 24th Apr 2008 20:06 in reply to "RE: Another Ubuntu"
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2005-07-06

Can't speak for Yast, as I've not used suse in years, but I haven't had any real issues with rpm based distros since the late 90s and really don't see where .debs are particularly more impressive.

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RE[2]: Another Ubuntu
by islander on Thu 24th Apr 2008 21:28 in reply to "RE: Another Ubuntu"
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2007-04-11

Could not have said it any better.

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RE[2]: Another Ubuntu
by miles on Fri 25th Apr 2008 00:25 in reply to "RE: Another Ubuntu"
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2006-06-15

Let's hope they drop Yast AND rpm at the same time.

It might be a great distro, but .deb and Debian standards are not things you leave easily. Which is why I always wonder why some people can compare such distros with Ubuntu, when these distros aren't even based on Debian. Suse and Fedora are doing a great job and catering for the needs of their user base, but if they ever want to attract Debian users there's only one way to do it. Till then, it's like trying to sell meat to vegetarians.

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RE[3]: Another Ubuntu
by h3rman on Fri 25th Apr 2008 15:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Another Ubuntu"
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2006-08-09

Let's hope they drop Yast AND rpm at the same time.


Sure, why not just fork Debian. Any idea how much work "dropping rpm" is? It's equivalent to killing your distro.

It might be a great distro, but .deb and Debian standards are not things you leave easily.


That's not a "standard". It's distro specific, it's not like Xorg or glibc or kdebase.

Which is why I always wonder why some people can compare such distros with Ubuntu, when these distros aren't even based on Debian.


The essence of comparing is comparing things that are *different*, not the same.

Suse and Fedora are doing a great job and catering for the needs of their user base,


I sense what you really mean is, 'for the handful of losers still using them..' ;)

but if they ever want to attract Debian users there's only one way to do it. Till then, it's like trying to sell meat to vegetarians.


You jest?
You believe for a second that Suse+dpkg=home_run?
Sorry, but it really doesn't work like that.
BTW I wonder what all those Debian users are flocking to CentOS for on servers? Could they actually believe there is an "rpm-based distro" that is doing *something* right? ;)

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RE[2]: Another Ubuntu
by suser on Fri 25th Apr 2008 08:47 in reply to "RE: Another Ubuntu"
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2005-08-04

Yes it might look good, but the usability goes downhill when you try to add software to it as RPM sucks plums, and YAST is a pain.


When was last time you try it? You might wanna reconsider ;-)

http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/296

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