Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 24th Apr 2008 15:42 UTC, submitted by M-Saunders
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu The Hardy Heron has taken flight: it's the second LTS (Long Term Support) release of the world's most popular distro. New features include the Wubi Windows installer and Firefox 3 beta 5. Grab a copy here, and check out Linux Format's overview of the release.
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RE[4]: Another Ubuntu
by sakeniwefu on Fri 25th Apr 2008 01:01 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Another Ubuntu"
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The thing that is/was slow in YaST is software installation. However, I guess Yast for software management will go away just like, apt-get, synaptic, yum, urpmi will go away when Packagekit takes over.Not that package kit is such all that speedy, but it will provide a well integrated standard interface that will make it easier for the end user.

A superior user interface that makes it easier for the end-user does already exist. It is called "aptitude".

RPMs might be better now than they were when Red Hat pulled a Microsoft on the standards body, and YUM and YAST might be trying hard to clone functionality, but Debian-based distros were there ages before and it shows.

PackageKit is a problem looking for more problems. I wouldn't let it near any system I cared about.

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RE[5]: Another Ubuntu
by benji on Fri 25th Apr 2008 08:02 in reply to "RE[4]: Another Ubuntu"
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Actually, packagekit is a package management abstraction API. It does not replace any existing systems, but rather allows the creation of distribution independent software that is package management aware. Packagekit frontends will use yum on fedora, apt on debian, zypp on suse. etc. See for more information.

As for suse package management stack being slow, that's not really true any more. See

YaST uses the same package management library as the command line application, so sees all the same speed improvements.

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RE[6]: Another Ubuntu
by sakeniwefu on Fri 25th Apr 2008 09:50 in reply to "RE[5]: Another Ubuntu"
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If everyone is going to use packages in their own format, why should we have a format abstraction daemon running?

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