Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 29th Apr 2008 08:21 UTC, submitted by Jason Slack
Legal In October 2006, Hans Reiser, creator of the ReiserFS filesystem, was arrested under the suspicion of the murder of his wife, Nina, who had disappeared off the face of the earth after dropping their two children off at Hans' home. The two were divorced, and fighting a legal battle over ownership of the Namesys company and the custody of their children. Even though the body was never found, he has been declared guilty of first degree murder.
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Easy to prove innocent
by hauger on Tue 29th Apr 2008 12:51 UTC
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2005-12-05

The defence speculation that the whole thing was a set up and that she's happily living in Russia with her family and kids seems a bit of a stretch. You'd think it'd be easy to prove she was alive if this was truly the case, hire a private investigator to go to Russia and watch the kids. You'd think eventually Nina, being a loving mother, would show up to see the kids. Video tape her alive, and bang! Hans is out of jail.

I find the thought of her framing him and heading to Russia rather hard to swallow, and assuming it's true, I'd find it even harder to swallow the thought that she would avoid her kids for any length of time to keep the fraud alive.

Now, to throw water on the flames that are a-brewin', I know getting a PI to Russia (or hire an honest one there) might prove a bit logistically tricky, and probably would be expensive, but if I was Hans, knew myself innocent, REALLY believed this line of reasoning and was facing all the punishments packaged with a 1st deg. murder conviction, I'd probably move heaven and earth to prove myself innocent.

Just my $0.02

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RE: Easy to prove innocent
by jack_perry on Tue 29th Apr 2008 14:19 in reply to "Easy to prove innocent"
jack_perry Member since:
2005-07-06

Now, to throw water on the flames that are a-brewin', I know getting a PI to Russia (or hire an honest one there) might prove a bit logistically tricky...


I don't think so. I'll bet that quite a few Russians do this sort of thing. Tracking her down would almost certainly be routine, unless (a) she is heroically able to avoid contact with anyone she knows in Russia, or (b) she is involved with organized crime. Even then it shouldn't be too hard if you know the right people; it's not as if you're going after the organization.

...and probably would be expensive...


I understood that money was not a problem for Reiser, but I could be wrong.

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RE[2]: Easy to prove innocent
by sbergman27 on Tue 29th Apr 2008 14:30 in reply to "RE: Easy to prove innocent"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

I understood that money was not a problem for Reiser, but I could be wrong.

Raising money to keep Namesys going and make payroll was an ongoing Hans Reiser theme. He'd tell you about it at the drop of a hat.

On the other hand, he sought out Russian employees because they'd work cheap. (This is according to Hans.) He made trips to Russia. He no doubt has contacts there. And services are, apparently, rather inexpensive there. And yet there was no attempt by the defense to actually find Nina there. If the defense did not have enough confidence in the "she defected to Russia with the kids" theory to actually look for her there, why should anyone else accord it more credibility?

Edited 2008-04-29 14:31 UTC

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RE[2]: Easy to prove innocent
by tomcat on Tue 29th Apr 2008 19:03 in reply to "RE: Easy to prove innocent"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

I don't think so. I'll bet that quite a few Russians do this sort of thing.


Quite a few Russians simply disappear without a trace? Without any kind of passport record? How did she get back to Russia? Stow away on a cargo ship? Forged passport?

That seems way too far-fetched. Using Hakim's Razor (the simplest explanation is most often correct), Reiser committed murder and disposed of his wife's body -- and that's probably what happened.

Edited 2008-04-29 19:08 UTC

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RE: Easy to prove innocent
by A.H. on Tue 29th Apr 2008 15:11 in reply to "Easy to prove innocent"
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2005-11-11

Finding a PI in Russia would be no more difficult than finding one in States, and offering a hefty bonus if he gets reliable evidence of Nina being alive would make him as honest as Themis herself. If Nina was alive they WOULD find her.

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RE: Easy to prove innocent
by siki_miki on Tue 29th Apr 2008 18:43 in reply to "Easy to prove innocent"
siki_miki Member since:
2006-01-17

Or you could hire a PI from Russia for that matter, much cheaper probably.

That story is just too much unrealistic. That she'd be smuggled out of country and that Russian's would keep her presence secret, it's just too much. If she's alive, the place is probably in the U.S. But he probably dumped her body somewhere, and instead of running away believed that he could still win the case.

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RE: Easy to prove innocent
by Gregory Isaacs on Tue 29th Apr 2008 18:54 in reply to "Easy to prove innocent"
Gregory Isaacs Member since:
2006-06-30

I think the idea of is wife disappearing in Russia ridiculous. It's a kind of phantasy that we deal with the dark and secret Russia behind the iron curtain and no western citizen can gain access to that country. In a case like this and mass media around everywhere it would be difficult for her to hide without a vid being posted on youtube.

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RE[2]: Easy to prove innocent
by stestagg on Wed 30th Apr 2008 16:21 in reply to "RE: Easy to prove innocent"
stestagg Member since:
2006-06-03

It depends on Nina's connections in Russia. If she were from a poor village, it would be easy to hide away. Some Russian villages are incredibly remote and insular, and won't have electricity or welcome outside visitors, tracking down a 'native' who doesn't want to be found in that sort of social environment would be practically impossible.

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