Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 30th Apr 2008 13:04 UTC, submitted by someone
Mac OS X Back in 2007 when Apple released Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, a much-heard criticism was the lack of support for Java 6. Leopard shipped with an older version of Java, 1.5, even though 1.6 had been released by Sun almost a year prior. Sun had already released Java 1.6 for Linux and Windows, but did not do so for Mac OS X, since Apple insists on developing their own version of Java, according to Sun. Now, 6 months later, Mac Java programmers can rejoice.
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RE: Comment by Kroc
by evangs on Wed 30th Apr 2008 18:41 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
evangs
Member since:
2005-07-07

I don't think Apple has ever been all that 'enthused' about Java either way.


Look at it this way. What was the last Java client side application that you used? If you're not a Java developer, you're definitely going to try your best to stay away from anything Java related.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 30th Apr 2008 18:48 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Look at it this way. What was the last Java client side application that you used? If you're not a Java developer, you're definitely going to try your best to stay away from anything Java related.


We just started using this here at OSN.

http://www.woopra.com/

Will blow all your prejudice surrounding Java away. What an AWESOME application.

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RE[3]: Comment by Kroc
by tyrione on Wed 30th Apr 2008 23:57 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Kroc"
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

"Look at it this way. What was the last Java client side application that you used? If you're not a Java developer, you're definitely going to try your best to stay away from anything Java related.


We just started using this here at OSN.

http://www.woopra.com/

Will blow all your prejudice surrounding Java away. What an AWESOME application.
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Looks nice for managing your web services, gathering tracking information and much more.

Too bad it's not something that hooks into, say Cocoon 2, and let's me manage them on my servers, without having to "sign up" and be part of this service.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Wed 30th Apr 2008 18:53 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

The one great thing about Java on the Mac is that it's transparent (as _any_ runtime is supposed to be). I refuse outright to install it on Windows. I do not want items in my startup and all the "integration" crap that litters the Windows install.

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RE[3]: Comment by Kroc
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 30th Apr 2008 19:05 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Kroc"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

The one great thing about Java on the Mac is that it's transparent (as _any_ runtime is supposed to be). I refuse outright to install it on Windows. I do not want items in my startup and all the "integration" crap that litters the Windows install.


What do you mean? Java apps run transparently on Windows too here. WinPatrol blocked the update services and such that Sun forces down your throat, so those don't bother me either.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by fretinator on Wed 30th Apr 2008 19:15 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

Look at it this way. What was the last Java client side application that you used? If you're not a Java developer, you're definitely going to try your best to stay away from anything Java related.


Yeah, stay away from OpenOffice (used in Base) and Limewire. If you do PHP development, stay away From Zend (now Ecplipse based). And cell phones are just for calling people. Right... that's crazy. Forget Java 1.1, will you. Java right now is VERY performant. Plus, it is SO nice to have an App that you can just drag-and-drop deploy between Windows, Mac, BSD and Linux. I write client-side apps for companies. They love the simplicity of deployment. And if you know how to code, they perform well.

Really, why don't we just stay away from higher-level languages altogether, and stick with tried-and-true assembler. I'd love to see the code base for OpenOffice.Org, assember edition!

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