Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 3rd May 2008 20:44 UTC, submitted by Moochman
Engadget got the chance to sit down with Jonathan Schwartz, the pony-tailed CEO of Sun Microsystems. Being the gadget blog that they are, Engadget asked Schwartz about the long-missing JavaFX Mobile platform Sun has promised, Java on the iPhone, and competing with Microsoft as an open source vendor.
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Your ignorance is even more telling. Cpus consume more energy at higher clock rates and dissipate more heat.
You're tripping sweetheart. What matters to people is what work gets done in that clock cycle for the amount of power they use and what they paid. It really is that simple.
Oh you are still stuck like a broken record on that article you posted
Yer, because that's a potential Sun customer (you know, money?), and that's what matters to him. As it is, he's looking at performance per watt per dollar and the raw figures just aren't there. Specweb justifies nothing to him.
Read and comprehend first. Then do some research and come up with some real data to the topic at hand. Some up to date data would be very useful.
You're making a huge assumption that Specweb is actually saying something because you have no data yourself, and you've proven yourself totally incapable of explaining it or discussing what's happening.
I wonder why the coolthreads systems are doubling in revenue YoY.
When you've come from nothing doubling is easy. Once again, no exact figures from Sun ;-).
I forgot that you don't live in the real world.
Member since:2005-07-07
You're tripping sweetheart. What matters to people is what work gets done in that clock cycle for the amount of power they use and what they paid. It really is that simple.
Lay off the crack pipe please.
Yer, because that's a potential Sun customer (you know, money?), and that's what matters to him. As it is, he's looking at performance per watt per dollar and the raw figures just aren't there. Specweb justifies nothing to him.
BZZZT! Smugmug is a Sun customer and has since posted very positive feedback about Sun.
http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2007/02/07/server-analysis-sun-victory...
http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2007/12/13/companies-that-listen-sun/
No more straws???
You're making a huge assumption that Specweb is actually saying something because you have no data yourself, and you've proven yourself totally incapable of explaining it or discussing what's happening.
No you have proven incapable of understanding simple data like two graphs that handily disprove your own statement. Hilariously, what's more you provided the data to support your claims. I would laugh if your feeble attempts at comprehension weren't so sad.
When you've come from nothing doubling is easy. Once again, no exact figures from Sun ;-).
IBM doesn't break down numbers by product lines either. Your point?
IBM makes 50%+ of their revenue from their consulting business. Their power server make a fraction of thier total product revenue. I don't see you calling power dead weight.
Edited 2008-05-05 02:46 UTC
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Stick to the point.
Repeating and regurgitating Sun's own benchmarks, verbatim, counts for very little.
Are you just daft? HP and Sun both submitted their respective results to Spec. It doesn't get any more objective than that.
Your ignorance is even more telling. Cpus consume more energy at higher clock rates and dissipate more heat.
Your article was ridiculously out dated. SpecWeb is an industry standard benchmark. Prove your point with some real data not FUD.
Again, specweb is a real benchmark for web services ( the target market for the Sun box) and and single Sun chip out classes 4 of the latest Xeons.
Right on cue. Speaking of arbitrary units of measure...... You can't just tot things up on Sun's power calculator on their web site and expect that to answer a real world question.
More vile ignorance. Real world datacenters are constantly looking for ways to reduce their cooling and electricity bills. Gee I wonder why virtualization and server consolidation is big in the REAL WORLD.
I forgot that you don't live in the real world.
It doesn't. It would help if you actually looked at what the results tell you, and it would also help if you actually knew what the power consumption cost of a Xeon was. You balance that versus the raw performance, and you could halve the CPUs to two and halve the performance of a Xeon to cut power right back (a more realistic test) and its raw performance would still be better.
It doesn't? Say what? that doesn't make any sense.
The Xeons X7350 are 130W parts. HP's and Intel's websites say so. Can't you read and comprehend?
Even if you reduce the cpus to 2 you get 260Ws for the cpus alone vs 95 watts or at max 123Watts for the SPARC cpu box. The SPARC box is still lower power but can now deliver twice the performance of the HP Xeon Box.
Eh? The Sun box and the HP box cost almost the same and the Sun box uses significantly less power.
Oh you are still stuck like a broken record on that article you posted.
I think HP and its engineers tuning the hell out of their setup and submitting a result that show cases the best performance number on SpecWeb2005 and Sun doing the same counts for a lot more than a blog post from 2 years ago.
HP and Sun have the only two results in the 40K range on SPecWeb2005. So we are comparing the very best submissions from the respective companies.
You can't possibly be implying that HP doesn't know how to tune and get the best performance out of their systems, could you? Especially when they are trying to post the highest number, or so they thought, for their own customers to see and the sales staff to use as material sell those systems.
You certainly can't be that daft , can you?
Got proof? The cool threads server's perfomance throws a wrench soundly in that statement.
I'd laugh if that wasn't so sad. Why do you think they left in the first place? I'm sure Sun gave them a nice deal and some new toys to play with ;-).
Please don't show your stupidity any more than you have to.
More nonsensical gibberish. Read and comprehend first. Then do some research and come up with some real data to the topic at hand. Some up to date data would be very useful.
I wonder why the coolthreads systems are doubling in revenue YoY.
Edited 2008-05-05 02:10 UTC