Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 3rd May 2008 20:44 UTC, submitted by Moochman
Oracle and SUN Engadget got the chance to sit down with Jonathan Schwartz, the pony-tailed CEO of Sun Microsystems. Being the gadget blog that they are, Engadget asked Schwartz about the long-missing JavaFX Mobile platform Sun has promised, Java on the iPhone, and competing with Microsoft as an open source vendor.
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RE[4]: Shame ...
by Arun on Mon 5th May 2008 02:32 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Shame ..."
Arun
Member since:
2005-07-07

Well, I know you want to nitpick without addressing the crux of the arguments, but I'll bite.

http://tweakers.net/reviews/649/last/database-test-sun-ultrasparc-t...

There should be some reasonable data in there for you to digest. The crux is that Sun's x86 Opteron servers are outselling SPARC by a wide margin. It's a question of volume, and that's why Sun had to move to it. Having their SPARC be outperformed and still be more expensive in the same target market isn't helping.


You are beyond hope at this point. Your reading and comprehension skills seem to be non existent.

Look at the charts. The chart on the left is Total Server shipments. On the right x86 shipments.

Q406
Total Server: Approx 100,000 units.
X86 servers: 30,000 Units.
Sparc Server (total - x86) = 70,000 units


Doh!



Given that Linux has traditionally been installed on x86 and that's where Sun's SPARC lunch was eaten, that's fairly logical. It's difficult to justify Solaris under those circumstances.


Sun sells more SPARC systems running Solaris than all the x86 systems combined. See above.


In all honesty, that doesn't surprise me. If the opposite was true, the Solaris folks would be trumpeting it from the hills. They're not.


But the opposite is true but your feeble mind can't comprehend it. Sorry try again.

That's the long and the short of it, and alas, there isn't much cheer to be had. Sun have some good stuff, and with good leadership they could be doing very well, but due to inertia and poor management decisions that isn't going to happen.


You are grasping at straws making silly statements with no real data to back them up.

Edited 2008-05-05 02:33 UTC

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RE[5]: Shame ...
by segedunum on Mon 5th May 2008 20:01 in reply to "RE[4]: Shame ..."
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Look at the charts. The chart on the left is Total Server shipments. On the right x86 shipments.

It doesn't show that at all. What it shows is a yearly growth comparison. Sorry, I really don't know what it is you work on, or what interest you have in this, but you simply cannot read. Did you not read the article, or did you just spin in your chair?

This was actually written about in the article:

"Sun indicated that it had sold slightly more servers, but a much sharper rise of Opteron sales reveals that Sparc sales are still on the way down."


Sun sells more SPARC systems running Solaris than all the x86 systems combined. See above.

You can't read a simple article. See above.

But the opposite is true but your feeble mind can't comprehend it. Sorry try again.

You've been presented with two articles that say otherwise. Failing to read the first article in order to see what you want to see, and then completely ignore the second because you saw what you wanted to see in the first is..........a pretty damn sad thing to do in all honesty.

Goodbye.

Edited 2008-05-05 20:16 UTC

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RE[6]: Shame ...
by Arun on Tue 6th May 2008 15:40 in reply to "RE[5]: Shame ..."
Arun Member since:
2005-07-07


It doesn't show that at all. What it shows is a yearly growth comparison. Sorry, I really don't know what it is you work on, or what interest you have in this, but you simply cannot read. Did you not read the article, or did you just spin in your chair?


Read the damn charts again. The y axis is units in thousands and x axis is quarters. The chart is pretty simple.


"Sun indicated that it had sold slightly more servers, but a much sharper rise of Opteron sales reveals that Sparc sales are still on the way down.

Sun sells more SPARC systems running Solaris than all the x86 systems combined. See above.
You can't read a simple article. See above.


You are just daft. All that means the growth rate of SPARC servers is less that x86 servers. For example, Say last quarter Sun sold 200 SPARC and 12 x86 boxes and this quarter sun sold 250 SPARC and 24 x86 boxes. The growth rate for SPARC would be 20% but x86 would be 100%.

That does not mean Sun sells more x86 boxes than SPARC. Astounding level of ineptitude.



You've been presented with two articles that say otherwise. Failing to read the first article in order to see what you want to see, and then completely ignore the second because you saw what you wanted to see in the first is..........a pretty damn sad thing to do in all honesty.


Your articles disprove your own claim. Seriously I can't argue with such a difference in intellectual capacity.

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