Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 5th May 2008 12:53 UTC, submitted by Adam S
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RE[3]: Link to the article?
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 5th May 2008 15:31
in reply to "RE[2]: Link to the article?"
Some of these do not even feature any links on the main page. It certainly seems systematic; link past coverage or past events to give context to the actual news item, but bury the link to the news item and any blurbs about that in the following paragraphs so users have to 'read more' to see what's being commented on.
Yup. I do this to prevent people from not reading the "read more". The "read more" on articles that we have been doing the past few weeks is a new element on OSNews, and I need to coerce people into seeing them, so they know it's there. It also prevent people from not seeing the whole picture; the new frontpage items on OSNews are far more general and less information-dense than they used to be - with information meaning information from the actual news article at hand. In other words, they are less meaningful, so you actually NEED the read more to gain a better understanding. The new style teasers generally contain nothing but a little history or background information on the topic at hand, but relatively little from the actual newsworthy article.
OSNews had turned into a glorified RSS feed with three lines teasers all over the place, no background information, no nothing, and an endless list of pointless test releases of Linux distributions, and meaningless items like "here's a review of GreatBSD 2.3.6.1.1.1a. Go read it." I've changed that. It's certainly not perfect yet, but give us time.
This is the new style for OSNews, which allows us to do more thorough items, with more information, and maybe an opinion or two. We've heard nothing but good responses, so everyone better get used to it
. Edited 2008-05-05 15:36 UTC
RE[4]: Link to the article?
by Alex Forster on Mon 5th May 2008 15:57
in reply to "RE[3]: Link to the article?"
So OSNews is the Thom Tech Blog now? Seriously, how now is it different from a blog? I like link aggrregation, and I'm sure I'm not alone. To be frank, I really don't care about your take on the subjects. I'll form my own, thank you. I come for links. I also don't care that you offer your take,but it's very presumptuious to so openly try to force it on us.
Edited 2008-05-05 16:09 UTC
RE[4]: Link to the article?
by sorpigal on Mon 5th May 2008 16:26
in reply to "RE[3]: Link to the article?"
Yup. I do this to prevent people from not reading the "read more". The "read more" on articles that we have been doing the past few weeks is a new element on OSNews, and I need to coerce people into seeing them, so they know it's there.
And you don't see anything wrong with that? I rely on osnews to let me know when something related to my interests is happening. When it does I expect a link to the actual information. The "extra details" you provider are either a subset of the linked article, and thus not useful to me because I will be reading the article anyway, or are comments that should be posted in reply instead.
It also prevent people from not seeing the whole picture; the new frontpage items on OSNews are far more general and less information-dense than they used to be - with information meaning information from the actual news article at hand. In other words, they are less meaningful, so you actually NEED the read more to gain a better understanding.
Do you not see what's wrong with that? The summary *should* provide information, hopefully enough that I can decide whether I want to peruse the article in full. Forcing me to click once to decide whether I want to click again wastes my time. Give me sufficient information *and* a link up front!
The new style teasers generally contain nothing but a little history or background information on the topic at hand, but relatively little from the actual newsworthy article.
OSNews had turned into a glorified RSS feed with three lines teasers all over the place, no background information, no nothing, and an endless list of pointless test releases of Linux distributions, and meaningless items like "here's a review of GreatBSD 2.3.6.1.1.1a. Go read it." I've changed that. It's certainly not perfect yet, but give us time.
OSNews had turned into a glorified RSS feed with three lines teasers all over the place, no background information, no nothing, and an endless list of pointless test releases of Linux distributions, and meaningless items like "here's a review of GreatBSD 2.3.6.1.1.1a. Go read it." I've changed that. It's certainly not perfect yet, but give us time.
That's fine, even good. When something is posted that I am not familiar with I like the extra background describing it. But why is this a reason to remove the link to the article?
This is the new style for OSNews, which allows us to do more thorough items, with more information, and maybe an opinion or two.
It's fine that the system "allows" you to do more thorough items, but I am not seeing that. I am seeing "requires readers to waste their time" on perfectly routine items where details are *not* required.
We've heard nothing but good responses, so everyone better get used to it
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. You're hearing a negative response now. Please stop hiding article links! Add "read more" pages to you heart's content, if you must. You could just post a comment like everybody else, but power is meant to be abused. Doesn't bother me. Just don't let this fancy new feature of yours allow you to lose perspective on what you're doing here: I don't come here to read your commentary, I come to find out what's going on in the OS and related world. If it's not original reporting then I *just* want the link to the source material.






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The link in the first paragraph is to part 1, which is only mentioned as a leader. Part 2 is the main focus of the article here and is inexplicably linked in paragraph two even though there was every opportunity to link in paragraph one ("part two").
The exact same thing was done in:
http://osnews.com/story/19712/Microsoft_Withdraws_Proposal_to_Acqui...
http://osnews.com/story/19710/Interview:_Jonathan_Schwartz_CEO_of_S...
http://osnews.com/story/19708/Slackware_12.1_Released
http://osnews.com/story/19706/Planet_GNOMEs_Lack_of_Love
http://osnews.com/story/19707/Bringing_Down_the_Language_Barrier_-_...
http://osnews.com/story/19705/McBride:_Linux_Is_a_Copy_of_UNIX
...
Some of these do not even feature any links on the main page. It certainly seems systematic; link past coverage or past events to give context to the actual news item, but bury the link to the news item and any blurbs about that in the following paragraphs so users have to 'read more' to see what's being commented on.