Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 9th May 2008 11:11 UTC
Google Last week, when Microsoft's attempt at buying Yahoo stranded, Steve Ballmer specifically mentioned Google, and how a possible deal between Google and Yahoo would limit choice and competition in the marketplace. Google explained yesterday how it would fend off possible antritrust concerns following an ad-sharing deal with Yahoo. In addtion, Google noted the irony in Microsoft's complaints.
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Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

If you prefer another definition, that is fine with me. I don't really care that much about hammering out the definition of monopoly.


I can very well call OSNews a butterfly, stating I don't want to hammer out the definition of butterfly, but that still doesn't mean OSNews magically becomes a butterfly.

Look, Google is a monopoly because it owns 53.6% of the online search market share. End of story. I know monopoly has a negative sound to it, and that's probably the reason why people don't want to call Google as such - since everybody loves Google and wants to hug and kiss it.

I do care about whether Google's position is anti-competitive or not. I do not see evidence that it is.


That's a whole different story. If that's what you mean, then say so, instead of coming up with new definitions or disregarding accepted ones. Personally, I don't really care. At this point, Google is the best search engine there is, and that's why I use it. If someone else comes along, and does search better than Google, I'll be the first to jump ship.

I *really* couldn't care less.

Edited 2008-05-09 14:01 UTC

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

That's a whole different story. If that's what you mean, then say so,

But I *am* saying so. I thought that my original post was clear enough when I posted it. Your post alerted me to the fact that not everyone defines monopoly in the same way, so I clarified my intent.

If I may make an observation... sometimes it seems that no matter how careful one tries to be in posting here on OSNews, somebody always wants to turn it into a fight. I don't see the utility in that. I know that you say that you don't really care, but the tone of your words suggests otherwise. Or perhaps I am just misinterpreting the tone.

Edited 2008-05-09 14:10 UTC

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

It's not about fighting, it's about using the proper terminology. Google_ninja stated that Google are a monopoly, and you said they weren't, because they do not abuse their position. I replied stating that abuse-or-not is irrelevant to the question whether somebody has a monopoly or not.

There's nothing about fighting in there. I'm just trying to explain that a company can hold a monopoly without abusing that position. That's all.

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sanctus Member since:
2005-08-31

According to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly):


The term monopoly (from Greek monos , alone or single + polein , to sell) can bear two main definitions:

1. In Economics, monopoly (also "Pure monopoly") exists when a specific individual or enterprise has sufficient control over a particular product or service to determine significantly the terms on which other individuals shall have access to it. [1] Monopolies are thus characterized by a lack of economic competition for the good or service that they provide and a lack of viable substitute goods. [2]


Where does it talk about percentage?

I seriously don't see how google fit this definition.

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apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

Nevermind this was argued for like 3 pages already.

Edited 2008-05-09 20:09 UTC

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