Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 9th May 2008 20:24 UTC
Microsoft In February 2008, the European Commission fined Microsoft for the record-breaking amount of 899 million Euros, for not complying to the 2004 ruling from Brussels. Today, Microsoft announced it has decided to appeal the fine. "We are filing this appeal in a constructive effort to seek clarity from the court. We will not be saying anything further," the company stated.
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RE: Comment by satan666
by helf on Fri 9th May 2008 21:26 UTC in reply to "Comment by satan666"
helf
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2005-07-06

Why? Can you give a good, well thought out reason? One other than, "Because I hate MS@!@222111!!"?

And don't come back "It's obvious! They are evil!!".

It amazes me the number of people that jump on the MS hate bandwagon without actually really knowing the companies history...

Edited 2008-05-09 21:26 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by satan666
by reduz on Fri 9th May 2008 22:06 in reply to "RE: Comment by satan666"
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2006-02-25

I believe hating microsoft is more than hell of a good reason, as they did way more than enough to be hated.

Also, i think it's a good way to force them interoperate with everyone else in the future..

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RE[3]: Comment by satan666
by dekernel on Fri 9th May 2008 22:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by satan666"
dekernel Member since:
2005-07-07

Well I really don't think that hating someone is good enough to place a fine on them.
If so, you better get ready because you will be paying for my kids college.

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RE[2]: Comment by satan666
by eantoranz on Fri 9th May 2008 22:42 in reply to "RE: Comment by satan666"
eantoranz Member since:
2005-12-18

It amazes me the number of people that jump on the MS hate bandwagon without actually really knowing the companies history...


On the contrary... because we know of MS history is why we hate them.

Anyway... just to make a long story short and not repeat what is elsewhere: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Microsoft

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RE[2]: Comment by satan666
by bousozoku on Sat 10th May 2008 15:28 in reply to "RE: Comment by satan666"
bousozoku Member since:
2006-01-23

Why? Can you give a good, well thought out reason? One other than, "Because I hate MS@!@222111!!"?

And don't come back "It's obvious! They are evil!!".

It amazes me the number of people that jump on the MS hate bandwagon without actually really knowing the companies history...


Take their agreement with Stac, for instance. They had an agreement to add compression to MS-DOS and at the last minute, they canceled the agreement and they put the compression in by themselves. They ended up paying Stac in court.

How about what they did with DR-DOS 5 and Windows 3.0 where the installation spread FUD since MS-DOS wasn't installed or the fact that they did the same thing with DR-DOS 6 and Windows 3.1? Andrew Schulmann showed, using Periscope, how they were not checking for safety's sake--they were checking for DR-DOS.

There were many other incidences, so which history are we supposed to remember?

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RE[2]: Comment by satan666
by StephenBeDoper on Sat 10th May 2008 20:12 in reply to "RE: Comment by satan666"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

It amazes me the number of people that jump on the MS hate bandwagon without actually really knowing the companies history...


At this point, the only thing that amazes me is that no one has (yet) accused you of being a Microsoft employee/shill/Bill Gates himself/etc.

Personally, my (cynical) attempt at an explanation is that "anything-but-Microsoft" posturing so become so popular that it's the first choice of those who wish to appear insightful - but can't be bothered with the effort of gaining actual insight.

The irony - and the sad part - is that when peoplle criticize Microsoft solely using simplistic rhetoric, it accomplishes the exact opposite of the intended effect. Speaking personally, it makes me want to go out and purchase Microsoft stock just to be contrary - in the same way that strident anti-smoking propaganda makes me want to go chain-smoke a pack of Lucky Strikes.

It's certainly not as if there is any lack of legitimate, specific reasons to criticize Microsoft and their software.

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RE[3]: Comment by satan666
by helf on Sun 11th May 2008 03:22 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by satan666"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

yeah, I'm actually surprised they haven't yet, too ;)

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RE[2]: Comment by satan666
by trenchsol on Sun 11th May 2008 13:08 in reply to "RE: Comment by satan666"
trenchsol Member since:
2006-12-07

Microsoft has history of monopolistic behavior that goes deep in the past. It is in best interest of the computer users, consumers and developers of cross platform applications to keep Microsoft under constant pressure and at disadvantage.

That way there is more chance to have many products to choose from by different vendors and at lower prices.

Figuratively speaking Microsoft's head should be kept under water all the time, except very brief periods to let them breath some air. This is not about Open Source, FSF and those things it is just pure interest.

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