Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 13th May 2008 07:08 UTC
Windows Windows XP SP3, the final service pack for Windows XP, was released to manufacturing a few weeks ago, and popped up on Windows Update about a week later. Even though the service pack is rather light on actual new features, it still caused a few problems for some users. Despite these problems, some benchmarks show that while SP3 delivers better performance compared to XP SP2, Microsoft seems to have solved many performance issues with Vista, turning the company's latest OS offering into the better choice for gaming - according to ExtremeTech.
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RE[2]: HP's lack of testing
by kaiwai on Tue 13th May 2008 12:38 UTC in reply to "RE: HP's lack of testing"
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

I've used HP laptops, where they did not function out of the box, because of the conflict of craplets installed on the machine, and a bad RaLink Vista driver. It's as if some lowest-of-the-chain tech was given the job of setting up the image, and he didn't bother re-booting the machine after installing everything.


I remember when I purchased an HP laptop for the first time; it was chocked to the brim with crap: I truly couldn't believe it when I saw it. To make matters worse, the BIOS was buggy, the ACPI was old and out of date (people are STILL shipping laptops with ACPI 1.0?).

The best experience so far? I've got a Lenovo thinkpad; wonderful - and it runs OpenSolaris like a champ. I'm not too sure what the consumer Lenovo laptops are like, but their Thinkpad range is simply awesome.

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StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

it was chocked to the brim with crap: I truly couldn't believe it when I saw it.


Sadly, that's true for nearly all big OEM PCs these days - desktops and laptops. For the last 3-4 years now, my standard practice when setting up a new laptop for someone has been: format the drive, install a clean copy of XP.

I've literally done virus/spyware cleanups that were less time-consuming than trying to remove all the pre-installed crap from a Dell/Acer/HP machine.

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RE[4]: HP's lack of testing
by kaiwai on Tue 13th May 2008 16:21 in reply to "RE[3]: HP's lack of testing"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Sadly, that's true for nearly all big OEM PCs these days - desktops and laptops. For the last 3-4 years now, my standard practice when setting up a new laptop for someone has been: format the drive, install a clean copy of XP.

I've literally done virus/spyware cleanups that were less time-consuming than trying to remove all the pre-installed crap from a Dell/Acer/HP machine.


The worse part about these applications, they're not even remotely useful in the slightest. Now, if all the software they bundled were full versions, then it would be a great value. Imagine getting a full version of Nero ultimate (or what ever their super deluxe model is called) - for example.

The thinkpad I have was surprisingly crap free - it was loaded with Windows Vista Basic and hardly any other software - so it ran surprisingly well. As mentioned arstechnica battlefront, I pointed out that what Microsoft needs is a 'gold partner' programme to really lift the quality of integration out there.

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