Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 13th May 2008 14:21 UTC
The Fedora Project has pushed out its 9th release. The release announcement is one of those fancy story ones, without much actual information, but an earlier email by Fedora project leader Paul Frields had some more interesting things to say.
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That's exactly what I'm saying: all I got is initlevel 3, a text login. Typing 'startx' does not work. No GUI login of any kind. That's what I said, it didn't work.
I got 2d acceleration working by searching the internet and running a beta nvidia 173.08 driver. But even doing that took me a few hours because there were other problems, like trying to get the file. Hard to browse to a web site if I have no gui and I don't have the exact url to the file.
Every reply to my previous post got it wrong. Basic standard VGA mode on my nvidia card did not work. Instead for 'bleeding edge' I got a 1970's state of the art, textual login prompt.
You might think I criticize Linux but I mean to do so only to point out that this is a huge kind of failure I repeatedly get with linux because X is so bad at self configuring for even a simple bare bones VGA login. I've used quite a few linux distributions over the years and every single one gives me hurdles with X.
Forget the nvidia driver issue, it's a bit irrelevent. Give me a reasonable GUI login, and not a 1970s mainframe login and I'd be a little happier.
The average Joe Bob farmer and Jane soccer mom would throw the disc away when confronted with that login. Oh and yes, it was the 'nv' driver and it didn't work. I have no idea why, and I wasn't given an alternative during any step in the installation process.
And even then when I did install the beta nvidia driver, X burps out a huge error message about ABI. The Fedora forums have posts from other people getting this error and a user-created solution. No patch is coming, so far. What a waste of time just trying to get the very basics working. Bleeding edge my *ss.
I got 2d acceleration working by searching the internet and running a beta nvidia 173.08 driver. But even doing that took me a few hours because there were other problems, like trying to get the file. Hard to browse to a web site if I have no gui and I don't have the exact url to the file.
Every reply to my previous post got it wrong. Basic standard VGA mode on my nvidia card did not work. Instead for 'bleeding edge' I got a 1970's state of the art, textual login prompt.
You might think I criticize Linux but I mean to do so only to point out that this is a huge kind of failure I repeatedly get with linux because X is so bad at self configuring for even a simple bare bones VGA login. I've used quite a few linux distributions over the years and every single one gives me hurdles with X.
Forget the nvidia driver issue, it's a bit irrelevent. Give me a reasonable GUI login, and not a 1970s mainframe login and I'd be a little happier.
The average Joe Bob farmer and Jane soccer mom would throw the disc away when confronted with that login. Oh and yes, it was the 'nv' driver and it didn't work. I have no idea why, and I wasn't given an alternative during any step in the installation process.
And even then when I did install the beta nvidia driver, X burps out a huge error message about ABI. The Fedora forums have posts from other people getting this error and a user-created solution. No patch is coming, so far. What a waste of time just trying to get the very basics working. Bleeding edge my *ss.
What nvidia card do you have?
Member since:2006-12-16
Quote: "The average Joe Bob farmer and Jane soccer mom would throw the disc away when confronted with that login. Oh and yes, it was the 'nv' driver and it didn't work. I have no idea why, and I wasn't given an alternative during any step in the installation process."
Agreed. However, without the full support of the proprietary hardware vendors, it is hard. That said, as you've pointed out with Windows, it just doesn't chuck you back to DOS and so say sorry, can't get a GUI working, so why does Linux do this? It should have a default 800*600 256 colours GUI that will launch if there are *any* problems with detecting the hardware at all. I'm sure that can't be that hard to do, if Microsoft developers can do it, so can open source ones.
Dave
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That's exactly what I'm saying: all I got is initlevel 3, a text login. Typing 'startx' does not work. No GUI login of any kind. That's what I said, it didn't work.
I got 2d acceleration working by searching the internet and running a beta nvidia 173.08 driver. But even doing that took me a few hours because there were other problems, like trying to get the file. Hard to browse to a web site if I have no gui and I don't have the exact url to the file.
Every reply to my previous post got it wrong. Basic standard VGA mode on my nvidia card did not work. Instead for 'bleeding edge' I got a 1970's state of the art, textual login prompt.
You might think I criticize Linux but I mean to do so only to point out that this is a huge kind of failure I repeatedly get with linux because X is so bad at self configuring for even a simple bare bones VGA login. I've used quite a few linux distributions over the years and every single one gives me hurdles with X.
Forget the nvidia driver issue, it's a bit irrelevent. Give me a reasonable GUI login, and not a 1970s mainframe login and I'd be a little happier.
The average Joe Bob farmer and Jane soccer mom would throw the disc away when confronted with that login. Oh and yes, it was the 'nv' driver and it didn't work. I have no idea why, and I wasn't given an alternative during any step in the installation process.
And even then when I did install the beta nvidia driver, X burps out a huge error message about ABI. The Fedora forums have posts from other people getting this error and a user-created solution. No patch is coming, so far. What a waste of time just trying to get the very basics working. Bleeding edge my *ss.