Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 27th May 2008 13:08 UTC, submitted by stonyandcher
Windows In spite of (or, thanks to?) Windows Vista, a recent release and all, Windows 7 has been getting a lot attention all over the web - even in the non-tech mainstream and print media. Since Microsoft is holding its cards close, people try to get by on little droplets of information, side remarks by Microsoft employees, slip-of-the-tongues, and, of course, plain-old forgery. PC World thinks these screenshots come from a scheduled May 2008 Windows 7 build, but if you look at them with a little more attention to detail, you will easily spot they are - at best - random mockups from Microsoft, or, - most likely - fake.
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RE: If I am Microsoft...
by daschmidty on Tue 27th May 2008 16:25 UTC in reply to "If I am Microsoft..."
daschmidty
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2007-03-01

To sell Windows 7, I would start with a completely new GUI. Vista's GUI is terrible under every aspect, not only visually. I can't find anyone who likes it.
A completely new, pleasing GUI will make a good selling point... copy that from Apple!


Despite my many gripes with windows, I actually like the windows GUI (many would tell me that's the reason I am also a KDE user). Though aero is unnecessary and I generally just go with the "classic" win9x look. It behaves much more responsively than aero and doesn't get in the way of what I am doing. I find the layout of the taskbars etc to be intuitive, though that may partially be due to familiarity. The style windows uses is rather standard though. As a former OS/2 user, win9x didn't feel like such a radical change.

On the other hand, I, unlike you, have never taken a liking to the OSX gui. I find it a bit awkward to be honest. The dock i much bigger than it needs to be, and on a laptop or small monitor, it consumes alot of screen real estate for my liking. I also dislike the window minimizing behavior of the dock, in that it doesn't label things, so if for example, you have a bunch of documents open, they are indistinguishable when minimized because the thumbnails the dock uses are way too small to try and read text. I also have never been comfortable with the menu-bar-on-top philosophy, as it seems counter intuitive to me to have a menubar at the top of the screen if the window you are using it not full screen and at the bottom. Lastly, I never got used to the way the mac gui handles multiple opened windows on the desktop. The stacking and manipulation of windows feels awkward.

But anyways, I was not trying to bash OSX here, my point was simply that as someone who needs to use windows on a near daily basis, I would hate to see and windows 7 gui that resembled the mac. If I liked the OSX design, I would use OSX ;) . Some of us actually do like windows interface design.

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RE[2]: If I am Microsoft...
by BigDaddy on Tue 27th May 2008 17:34 in reply to "RE: If I am Microsoft..."
BigDaddy Member since:
2006-08-10

On the other hand, I, unlike you, have never taken a liking to the OSX gui.


Gasp! Are you serious? I thought I was the only one who didn't like the OSX appearance. I mean yeah, I like the font rendering, and some of the neat eye candy, but all in all I just don't care for it. The whiteness, the brushed metal, the glass buttons... meh.

The dock as an application launcher if fine, but that is about as much as I would ever use it. Glad to know I am not alone in this.

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RE[3]: If I am Microsoft...
by helf on Wed 28th May 2008 01:19 in reply to "RE[2]: If I am Microsoft..."
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

I don't like the OSX GUI much, either. I've never liked the Mac GUI design much. Which is funny, since I adore nextsteps and it's rather similar in a lot of aspects. I don't mind the Amiga GUI, either. There is just something about the Mac GUI that annoys me...

I hate how glitzy every major OS is getting. It's sad. It's like people are reverting completely back to the "ooo.. shiny! ug want!" phase of evolution.

:(

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RE[3]: If I am Microsoft...
by Johann Chua on Wed 28th May 2008 11:43 in reply to "RE[2]: If I am Microsoft..."
Johann Chua Member since:
2005-07-22

I still wonder why the OS X menu bar messed up the fixed positions of the File, Edit, etc., menus in Classic Mac OS by inserting the app name (which doubles as the app-specific menu) in between the Apple and File menus.

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RE[2]: If I am Microsoft...
by biffuz on Wed 28th May 2008 06:22 in reply to "RE: If I am Microsoft..."
biffuz Member since:
2006-03-27

Despite my many gripes with windows, I actually like the windows GUI (many would tell me that's the reason I am also a KDE user). Though aero is unnecessary and I generally just go with the "classic" win9x look.


I used to like it as well, but after 13 years I got tired :-)

On the other hand, I, unlike you, have never taken a liking to the OSX gui.


This isn't the point. The point is that the Mac's GUI is so attractive, that people buy Macs just for it. This is the lesson Microsoft should learn: make Windows something that people will be happy to buy.

Then, you should (preferably) make it something people will be happy to use, too. Sure, OSX isn't perfect and doesn't meet everybody's tastes, but most people is happy with it.
And this is true for most products, otherwise you won't find them in a store for long.

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