Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 3rd Jun 2008 22:19 UTC
Microsoft During his last public speech for Microsoft as Chairman of the company, at TechEd 2008, Bill Gates made some interesting announcements regarding Internet Explorer 8 and Silverlight 2.0. In the meantime, Windows XP made the headline news at CompuTex.
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RE[2]: Comment by satan666
by leos on Wed 4th Jun 2008 02:54 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by satan666"
leos
Member since:
2005-09-21

As for Internet Explorer 8 and Silverlight; given the crap quality of the Flash plugin by Adobe on non-Microsoft platforms (and even on Microsoft platforms)


Flash works alright for me on Linux. And the open source implementations like gnash are starting to mature.

I would have thought that the non-Microsoft OS users would be the first to celebrate.


Absolutely not. I would much rather have a somewhat inferior official Linux version of the Flash plugin than Moonlight, which isn't even officially acknowledged by Microsoft, and could be obsoleted or shut down by Microsoft at some point in the future.

Maybe if Adobe was subject to some competition, they might actually get off their behinds and hire some decent *NIX programmers who know how to programme.


Competition is good, but I will complain to any website that uses Silverlight. It's a big threat to alternate platforms. It's pretty common sense not to let the dominant OS maker also control a big web media delivery mechanism. Adobe is not great, but at least they have no motivation to lock out competing platforms.

Firefox 3.0 is a great browser, but I am hesitant right now given the number of unfixed bugs in their nightly builds and in some cases, regressions that are occuring.


Really? So far I've had nothing but good experiences with Firefox 3. But I guess there are lots of system variations. Hopefully your issues get addressed before release.

Edited 2008-06-04 02:57 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by satan666
by jpobst on Wed 4th Jun 2008 04:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by satan666"
jpobst Member since:
2006-09-26

I would much rather have a somewhat inferior official Linux version of the Flash plugin than Moonlight, which isn't even officially acknowledged by Microsoft, and could be obsoleted or shut down by Microsoft at some point in the future.


You are of course welcome to not use Moonlight, but to say it isn't officially acknowledged by Microsoft is completely false.

Here is the Microsoft press release on Microsoft's site about it: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/sep07/09-04Silverligh...

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RE[4]: Comment by satan666
by leos on Wed 4th Jun 2008 04:53 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by satan666"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

Here is the Microsoft press release on Microsoft's site about it: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/sep07/09-04Silverligh...


Interesting. That's the first official mention I've seen. Then again, the official silverlight site (http://silverlight.net/) has absolutely no mention of linux anywhere, not even some indication that it could be eventually a supported platform. So for now I wouldn't put too much stock in that press release.

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RE[4]: Comment by satan666
by lemur2 on Wed 4th Jun 2008 04:55 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by satan666"
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2007-02-17

"I would much rather have a somewhat inferior official Linux version of the Flash plugin than Moonlight, which isn't even officially acknowledged by Microsoft, and could be obsoleted or shut down by Microsoft at some point in the future.


You are of course welcome to not use Moonlight, but to say it isn't officially acknowledged by Microsoft is completely false.

Here is the Microsoft press release on Microsoft's site about it: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/sep07/09-04Silverligh...
"

The "officially acknowledged" bit is off the mark ... but the "could be obsoleted or dropped by Microsoft at any time" observation is absolutely spot on.

1. Moonlight = Binary codecs, available only from Microsoft.

2. Microsoft counts Linux as its major threat.

You do the math.

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RE[3]: Comment by satan666
by stabbyjones on Wed 4th Jun 2008 04:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by satan666"
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2008-04-15

flash does work semi well for me on linux but compared to flash on other operating systems, it is without a doubt completely terrible.

I agree with the comment above also that non ms users should appreciate anything that isn't flash cause i sure do.

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