While I can personally attest for the gains Microsoft made when it comes to Windows Vista's performance between its release-to-manufacture November 2006 and now, there is no denying the fact that Vista simply isn't made for running on lower-specced computers. In addition, while Vista brings interesting new features and massive overhauls of many subsystems, a lot of people simply don't like it. Sadly for them, Windows XP is going out-of-sale 30 June. However, there are plenty of loopholes - PC World listed them.
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Member since:2008-04-10
Member since:2005-06-29
My machine, from 2001, had a 60USD mem upgrade and now runs Vista, with full Aero, just fine. A friend of mine is sending me a spare processor for free he had lying around (so I'm going from an Athlon XP 1600+ to a 2800+) and my machine will chug along just fine.
Member since:2006-01-06
Vista runs just fine on most hardware sold within the past couple years, despite what the zealots say. You need at least 2GB of memory and a reasonable video card, of course, but the cost of those items is negligible. From what some people say, you'd think they had to give a kidney to get Vista running.
Edited 2008-06-06 06:44 UTC
Member since:2005-07-06
No offense Thom , as you are really easily offended but your comparing apple to oranges and reading you current post is the clue.
* Who's OEM vendor in 2001 where selling computer with easily swappable CPU ? Most of them where soldiering the CPU in those days and changing the CPU would void the warranty.
* What kind/brand of Motherboard are we talking about here one with expansion slot and upgradability ? That's not really a 2001 OEM motherboard I know.
* What vista are you running and talking about ?
* What onboard graphic card from 2001 run Vista perfectly ?
Why all the upgrade then ?
When real people change there 2001 computer to a 2008 low end one they expect it to be faster , have better software , don't crash and be secure and compatible with there older peripheric.
That's not the case for most people and most low end offer currently on the market in a XP VS vista home comparison.
BTW : Aerio problem are usually at the GPU end not the cpu or ram.
Member since:2005-07-06
That's a dream machine :
http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/hp-blackbird-002/4505-3118_7-32592...
Find me a 600$ that as the same score , then I will agree with your nonsense.
Also anyone who is not you and knowledgeable and actually realistic know that a 600$ offer from OEM vendor is like having a 200-300$ system , because the OEM have to include there profit , some support fee , warranty , legal copy of the included OS and software , that are as much as the hardware cost this days and also the peripherals ( monitor , keyboard , mouse and speakers. )
That's Dell current Graphic card choice in Australia :
- ATI Radeon™ HD 3870 X2 1024MB GDDR3
- ATI Radeon™ HD 3870 512MB GDDR4
- 768MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800 Ultra
- 768MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800 GTX
- 512MB nVidia GeForce 8800 GT
- 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600 GTS TurboCache™
- 256MB ATI Radeon™ HD 2600 XT HyperMemory™
- 128MB ATI Radeon™ HD 2400 Pro HyperMemory
Notice the lack of option to pick the 9600 GTX cards ...
Also is point was really that the low end machine sold by the majority of computer vendor always have one problem or another and that you need a 3000$ AUD ( Aka 1500$ CAD/USD ) to have a really full proof Vista computer. He is right too.
Member since:2006-02-05
I refuse to listen to anything you say until you stop violating OSNews Terms of Use
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Although you are getting better, you used to not be able to post without violating five or more.
Member since:2005-08-11
"Also is point was really that the low end machine sold by the majority of computer vendor always have one problem or another and that you need a 3000$ AUD ( Aka 1500$ CAD/USD ) to have a really full proof Vista computer. He is right too."
No. You don't. Any 600 dollar computer with a DirectX 9 VC with 128M of ram will do, and I have done it. Stop exaggerating.
Member since:2007-01-13
1. CPUs haven't been soldered onto motherboards for over 20 years.
2. AUD3000 is ~USD2700 and rapidly rising. The AUD will probably be worth more than the USD by Xmas.
3. I have a dual 9333MHz P3 from 2001 with 2Gb of ram (4x512MB).
4. You can easily build a sub $600 machine with top quality components.
5. Most of the market is for low end machines with integrated graphics. Probably no more than 1% of the market is for 'dream machines'. Virtually all current PCs are adequate for the next 5 years or so. However it is much cheaper to upgrade a new mid-range PC every year than a buy high-end machine every three years. This year's $3000 PC will be easily outclassed by next year's $1500 machine.
Member since:2005-07-28
Re: torrenting Windows
I really would like to see:
(1) A stat for the number of people running Windows they haven't paid for, and
(2) The number of people who really have a problem with this vs. people who pretend they do or make disclaimers about it to stay out of trouble.
Edited 2008-06-06 15:47 UTC
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2006-02-05
You have to be kidding me. A 600$ machine will run vista like a dream. 3,000 and you are talking about 9600 GTX cards and RAID 0 Solid State drives
Edited 2008-06-06 02:29 UTC