While I can personally attest for the gains Microsoft made when it comes to Windows Vista's performance between its release-to-manufacture November 2006 and now, there is no denying the fact that Vista simply isn't made for running on lower-specced computers. In addition, while Vista brings interesting new features and massive overhauls of many subsystems, a lot of people simply don't like it. Sadly for them, Windows XP is going out-of-sale 30 June. However, there are plenty of loopholes - PC World listed them.
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Member since:2006-02-15
* Who's OEM vendor in 2001 where selling computer with easily swappable CPU ? Most of them where soldiering the CPU in those days and changing the CPU would void the warranty.
Never EVER seen a single OEM PC with soldered-on CPU! I have never even heard of such things before you claimed that! Besides, Thom never said if his PC is OEM or not..
* What kind/brand of Motherboard are we talking about here one with expansion slot and upgradability ? That's not really a 2001 OEM motherboard I know.
What are you babbling about?
* What onboard graphic card from 2001 run Vista perfectly ?
Didn't see him claiming such either.
So, what are you trying to do? Troll about Vista?
Member since:2005-06-29
Local OEM here in The Netherlands, now called MyCom (used to be another name). Oh, and I've been dealing with computers for a long time, and I have NEVER seen a soldered-on processor in a normal home desktop machine. This one has a removable Athlon XP 1600+ at 1400Mhz, and a friend of mine from #haiku is sending me a 2800+ one he had lying around. It doesn't need it though, Vista runs fine with the 1600+. But hey, I don't turn down free upgrades.
Perhaps you don't know everything. It's an Epox EP-8KHA. Here's a review:
http://active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/ep-8kha.htm
Windows Vista Ultimate, SP1.
Who said anything about onboard? I upgraded a long time ago to a cheap 60USD GeForce 6300 128MB AGP card.
"All the upgrade"? An extra stick of RAM and a cheap video card?
Look, I have no reason to lie about these things. I have a machine that's so old it met Jesus, and it still runs Vista with a minor upgrade. You can blabber on about people buying low-end machines today, but I don't care, nor did I ever mention anything to that effect. All I stated was that my stone age machine runs Vista JUST FINE. You are free to come by here in The Netherlands and see for yourself - assuming your satnav can find East-Bumblefcuk.
Member since:2005-07-06
@Thom and @BluenoseJake
The point being made is your older computer made with better but older component as a better Windows Vista score then the Low end Vista computer sold in stores.
They (not yours ) come with bottom barrel Motherboard that barely do the job , that have no or almost no expansion slot and come with on-board GPU that barely do 2d properly.
Also Windows Vista **home** is a POS , that's what most people complain about.
But it as the Windows Vista ready sticker on them ...
Member since:2005-08-11
"Who's OEM vendor in 2001 where selling computer with easily swappable CPU ? Most of them where soldiering the CPU in those days and changing the CPU would void the warranty."
Uh, Most of them, it's only the most crappy, cheapest computers or MBs that come with soldered on CPUs, even in those days. None of the Dells, HPs or Gateways that I worked on in those days had soldered on CPUs.
"* What onboard graphic card from 2001 run Vista perfectly ? "
Uh, none of them, but who said anything about onboard graphics? I run Vista on almost identical hardware to what Thom is going to be running (Athlon 2800+/X1650Pro/1.5G ram) and it runs Vista perfectly.
I run Vista on the same specs Thom does, and it works great.
Member since:2005-09-13
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2005-07-06
No offense Thom , as you are really easily offended but your comparing apple to oranges and reading you current post is the clue.
* Who's OEM vendor in 2001 where selling computer with easily swappable CPU ? Most of them where soldiering the CPU in those days and changing the CPU would void the warranty.
* What kind/brand of Motherboard are we talking about here one with expansion slot and upgradability ? That's not really a 2001 OEM motherboard I know.
* What vista are you running and talking about ?
* What onboard graphic card from 2001 run Vista perfectly ?
Why all the upgrade then ?
When real people change there 2001 computer to a 2008 low end one they expect it to be faster , have better software , don't crash and be secure and compatible with there older peripheric.
That's not the case for most people and most low end offer currently on the market in a XP VS vista home comparison.
BTW : Aerio problem are usually at the GPU end not the cpu or ram.