Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 6th Jun 2008 22:28 UTC
Linux Linus Torvalds - a classic example of the love-it-or-hate-it type of person. Brilliant programmer, of course, and the father of one of the most extraordinary software projects in the world, but sometimes, he can be utterly arrogant any annoying, yet the other moment completely sensible and utterly spot-on in his statements. CBR listed the ten best Linus Torvalds quotes.
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Torvalds
by Lengsel on Sat 7th Jun 2008 00:00 UTC
Lengsel
Member since:
2006-04-19

Before I get it to it, let me say I am an avid OpenBSD user, I used OpenBSD on several machines exclusively. I personally find it the easiest OS to maintain. I am also willing to use FreeBSD and PC-BSD sometimes, and trying to get a couple people turned onto the next release of PC-BSD.

That being said, so you know what angle I am coming from, "Brilliant programmer"? Ok, if you say so. "father of one of the most extraordinary software projects in the world" ummmmm, what? That sounds like a biased software love-affair. If you want to have a high opinion of Linus, your choice, if you like some of the things he has said over the years, your choice, if you're a Linux fan, again, that's your choice. But sounding like you think he is a big hero of the software world? ummmm no. Statements like that and you're slowly turning parts of this into an opinion piece. You can't be calling his work "extraordinary", while ignoring how revolutionary FreeBSD ports was, how superior the OpenBSD documentation was when it started, or how PF simplified the whole process for writing rules for a firewall in a big way and for packet inspection. Need to level the playing field for what articles get posted.

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RE: Torvalds
by ephracis on Sat 7th Jun 2008 00:56 in reply to "Torvalds "
ephracis Member since:
2007-09-23

You gotta chill out, man..

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RE: Torvalds
by elsewhere on Sat 7th Jun 2008 01:27 in reply to "Torvalds "
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

Before I get it to it, let me say I am an avid OpenBSD user...


That was enough to read to put the rest of your post in context. Here's your card.

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RE: Torvalds
by 6c1452 on Sat 7th Jun 2008 04:23 in reply to "Torvalds "
6c1452 Member since:
2007-08-29

There are a lot of neat free software projects. If your pet project has a leader who produces amusing quotes, you should make a list of them and submit it.

This is a way of saying that you are dramatically off-topic. Would you like the artible to be changed to read "...father of one of the most extraordinary software projects in the world. BSD ports are another extraordinary project. But sometimes, he..." ? Does that not sound just the slightest bit incredibly stupid to you?

If you feel that linux is not a remarkable project, then I'm sure we would all be fascinated to see you present evidence to that effect. If you feel that there are projects which are more remarkable - you might notice that the article didn't say there aren't - then I'm sure everybody would like to read a quantitative analysis of which open source projects are the most incredible.

And seeing that Linus was the right man in the right place, and made the right decisions to enable free software to really take off, during a time period when BSD was bogged down for years with licensing issues, I know that I would be very interested to learn why he is not, in fact, a big hero.

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v RE[2]: Torvalds
by krreagan on Sat 7th Jun 2008 04:48 in reply to "RE: Torvalds "
RE: Torvalds
by StephenBeDoper on Sun 8th Jun 2008 13:11 in reply to "Torvalds "
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

If you want to have a high opinion of Linus, your choice, if you like some of the things he has said over the years, your choice, if you're a Linux fan, again, that's your choice.


Phew - I'm sure everyone must feel better now that you've given them permission to hold personal opinions.

Statements like that and you're slowly turning parts of this into an opinion piece. You can't be calling his work "extraordinary", while ignoring how revolutionary FreeBSD ports was, how superior the OpenBSD documentation was when it started, or how PF simplified the whole process for writing rules for a firewall in a big way and for packet inspection. Need to level the playing field for what articles get posted.


Awww, who took the baby's bottle away?

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RE: Torvalds
by Soulbender on Mon 9th Jun 2008 14:55 in reply to "Torvalds "
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Stop giving us OpenBSD users a bad name by being a moron.

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