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RE[8]: Is anyone on the OSNews staff monitoring this???
by mickrussom on Sun 8th Jun 2008 08:03
in reply to "RE[7]: Is anyone on the OSNews staff monitoring this???"






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2008-06-05
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/18/red_hat_sun_java_license/
FACT: Sun's bizarre licensing of Java hampered its development, usage, and spread for years.
They refused to let anyone do even closed source ports for ever. So the FreeBSD guys had to beg and plead even to be allowed to make a binary port and release it as "BETA PLEASE HELP US TEST" to FreeBSD beta testers only.
I've already mentioned the Blackdown thing so no need to go into it in detail. But I will add that Blackdown had Java ports to Linux on many architectures and when Sun took and re-released their work they released only a "LINUX" binary (meaning, RedHat on x86).
Java could have been on every OS everywhere if they had just loosened their grip and allowed people to help them for free.
From the article:
Are you seriously going to try to claim that wasn't true at the time that was written?
I have attended multiple meetings with RedHat sales staff that make it plain as day that they don't like Sun and waste no time in telling you (minus certain key details) what is wrong with any Sun product.
Also a FACT.
I don't trust any sales guy as far as I can throw him.
Are you saying RedHat does these horrible travesties and slander against Sun but Sun is always kind and nice to RedHat/Linux? I doubt it, because I have heard first and second hand of what Sun has had to say about Linux and about GPL and about open source generally until lately.
Sales guys lie, that's their job sadly. However on the Linux/BSD side I don't see a lot of advocacy from anyone but distro vendor sales droids. All the developers seem to spend their time writing or fixing code, and the few times they ever proclaim dominance it is always in a self deprecating amusing tone with a smiley ;-) (cf Linus)
Sun people seem to have a lot of free time at their job to talk trash.