Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 10th Jun 2008 17:12 UTC, submitted by stonyandcher
Benchmarks Green, power reduction, and climate change are all the rage these days, and the world of computers is not off the hook on this one. Software and hardware manufacturers are trying hard to keep power consumption down - while first something for mostly mobile computers, desktops and servers are now part of the effort too. PC World tested Windows Server 2008 and two Linux server offerings and compared their power usage patterns.
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RE: Power saving
by sbergman27 on Tue 10th Jun 2008 20:00 UTC in reply to "Power saving"
sbergman27
Member since:
2005-07-24

But doing things for "going green" or "climate change" is bunch of garbage perpetrated by fascists and all the liberal nonsense.

I am disappointed at your playing down the importance of reducing energy consumption, and instead pushing your own political agenda. Global warming is but one of many very important practical and environmental reasons to conserve. Mining or drilling for fossil fuels has a very real impact. Burning those fossil fuels has a very real impact. It does not matter whether you find the arguments for global warming to be convincing. The conclusion which any rational person must draw regarding the need to conserve is clear. It was clear back in the 1970's when I was growing up during the "energy crisis". After that, we ignored it for a long time, simply choosing SUVs instead of cars to get around CAFE, etc.

But the fact remains, and is still clear today: We must do what we can to conserve. And there is a fantastic amount of low-hanging fruit still ripe for the picking.

Please do not try to minimize the issue, or derail the conversation with a personal pet peeve.

And on that note, I invite Windows, Linux, *BSD, and Mac users, along with everyone else, to help each other to see ways to conserve. Because regardless of the OS we prefer... we are all in this together. I'm 45. And my generation has so far failed to do anything meaningful about this problem. I call upon all of you, now, to succeed where my generation has failed.

Edited 2008-06-10 20:16 UTC

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RE[2]: Power saving
by evangs on Tue 10th Jun 2008 20:12 in reply to "RE: Power saving"
evangs Member since:
2005-07-07

It was clear back in the 1970's when I was growing up during the "energy crisis".


You mean the 1970s when climatologist were warning about the impending threat of "global cooling"? Or the 1970s when the man made "energy crisis" hit due to the OPEC cartel deciding to stop the shipments of oil to countries supporting Israel in the Yom Kippur war?

AGW is a hoax. It may be happening (though evidence shows that the earth has begun to cool), but its a real stretch to try an pin the blame on human activity.

Nevertheless, I'm all in favor of reducing the power consumed by computers. Less power consumed = less cooling needed = longer lasting hardware. Thats in addition to the $$$ saved through lower energy bills.

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RE[3]: Power saving
by JeffS on Tue 10th Jun 2008 20:29 in reply to "RE[2]: Power saving"
JeffS Member since:
2005-07-12

"AGW is a hoax"

Prove it.

I'm not fully convinced that global warming, in the long haul, is actually happening. Nor am I fully convinced it's because of excessive human pollution and not due to natural global climate cycles. However, there is tons of credible, hard, scientific evidence from multitudes of credible sources, that points to the validity of these theories.

So I say let's take it seriously. Conservation and reducing pollution are good things regardless. There is nothing to lose, and a lot to gain (reduced dependence on foreign oil, for example).

But then there is the anti-global-warming-theory crowd, who have shown up on this thread. They continually say it isn't happening, that it's all "fascist liberals", or "it's a hoax" or "it will ruin the economy", or they simply try to discredit all of the multitudes of scientists and climatologists, that support global warming theory, as being anti-American liberal commies. All this without making any kind of logical argument, without providing any decent evidence from any credible sources, to support their extreme positions.

These folks are nothing more than ultra right-wing extremist ideologues who are unwilling to look at scientific evidence.

And no, "because Rush Limbaugh says so" is not credible evidence.

So, once again, prove it (and prove me wrong). I sincerely hope you can give a decent argument - I'd love to here it. Again, I'm not fully convinced about the threat of global warming.

But I reject completely right-wingers who reject global warming theory based entirely on their politics, pre-conceived notions, or ideals.

Just base it on science, please.

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RE[3]: Power saving
by sbergman27 on Tue 10th Jun 2008 20:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Power saving"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Nevertheless, I'm all in favor of reducing the power consumed by computers. Less power consumed = less cooling needed = longer lasting hardware. Thats in addition to the $$$ saved through lower energy bills.

If selfish reasons are what float your boat, far be it from me to disagree. You are correct. Those are good reasons to conserve. Also, less reliance upon foreign powers for fuels makes one's country less vulnerable to manipulation by those powers. Yes, there are plenty of selfish reasons to conserve.

If those are what persuade you to do the right thing, I'm all for it, and do not particularly care whether you see greenhouse gas induced warming to be a real threat or not. So please do not sing a "one note samba" regarding your skepticism toward climate change. The big picture encompasses far more than that.

Edited 2008-06-10 20:42 UTC

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