Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Jun 2008 08:14 UTC
Gnome The KDE project saw the writing on the wall. They saw that they had reached a certain limit when it came to what could be done with the KDE 3.x series - they named it the "big friggin' wall", and decided that in order to get over that wall, incremental updates wouldn't do - they needed massive changes, a big jump, and they went for it. It's been a rough road, but it seems as if KDE 4.1 is showing signs of the vision becoming a reality. And it now seems as if several people within the GNOME community are seeing the writing on the wall too: GNOME 2.x has reached its goal - now what?
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RE: hard...
by Kwitschibo on Wed 11th Jun 2008 13:41 UTC in reply to "hard..."
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kde isn't amazed for users... it's a shock... the gap to gnome is big? yes... the usability und stability gap. kde is far far away from the quality tha the gnome desktop reached.

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RE[2]: hard...
by dagw on Wed 11th Jun 2008 14:04 in reply to "RE: hard..."
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the gap to gnome is big? yes... the usability und stbility gap.

Are you talking about KDE 3 or 4? As someone who generally uses GNOME, I don't find the latest KDE 3.5 lagging in either usability or stability. Is it different than GNOME, sure. Are there things with it that I find less than intuitive, sure, but no more so than in GNOME. There are things I find easier in GNOME and things I find easier in KDE, and non really have the edge. My current Linux setup currently tends to be the GNOME desktop (from mint Linux) with the KDE4 dolphin file manager. Unconventional I'll admit, but it works for me.

When it comes to KDE4 you admittedly have a point on both the stability and usability front, but then again KDE4 is still very much beta software and everybody involved will admit that it has quite a bit to go. However if the KDE team actually pull of everything they've talked about I can not only see myself switching, but KDE jumping into the usability lead. Of course it won't appeal to everyone, especially those people who are of the opinion that dwm with 4 open xterms is the ultimate in usability.

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by irbis on Thu 12th Jun 2008 07:46 in reply to "RE: hard..."
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the usability und stability gap. kde is far far away from the quality tha the gnome desktop reached.

If only that was really the case but I'm afraid it may not be quite like that. At least on my PC it is not a rare case at all when GNOME gives some error messages (some panel applet(s) not loading after I've started GNOME - despite having plenty of free memory, etc.). Especially in the stability front GNOME may still have a lot to do. Maybe the core GNOME technology is quite well tested and stable, but especially extra apps and add-ons like panel applets may not be of the same quality.

I don't need extra bling for bling's sake every half a year, and thus - for the time being - I might actually be happy with incremental only GNOME releases - if that would mean ultra stability and streamlining the desktop and apps so that they would be faster and less resource hungry. Unfortunately GNOME has become quite a resource hog despite its supposed goals of simplicity.

Edited 2008-06-12 07:50 UTC

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