Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Jun 2008 08:14 UTC
Gnome The KDE project saw the writing on the wall. They saw that they had reached a certain limit when it came to what could be done with the KDE 3.x series - they named it the "big friggin' wall", and decided that in order to get over that wall, incremental updates wouldn't do - they needed massive changes, a big jump, and they went for it. It's been a rough road, but it seems as if KDE 4.1 is showing signs of the vision becoming a reality. And it now seems as if several people within the GNOME community are seeing the writing on the wall too: GNOME 2.x has reached its goal - now what?
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GNOME is a Shell
by byrc on Wed 11th Jun 2008 14:32 UTC
byrc
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2006-02-18

Gnome /can/ be advanced and beautiful and featureful, all GNOME itself needs to do is allow for other to build against it. IMO, the problem with KDE has been the fact that everything is made by the people of KDE, and third party apps sometimes have issues integrating with KDE. GNOME, on the other hand, has always been very flexible and able to accept third party apps into its environment.

My GNOME desktop is beautiful. I have compiz-fusion runnning my pretty effects, avant for my docklike launcher. Emerald for my pretty windows... Etc.

My point is, instead of trying to be a super-model from the start, GNOME should just walk outside naked and say, "here I am, now make me what you want of me." This sort of mind-set allows distros to tweak GNOME and add beauty to the plain shell that exists already.

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RE: GNOME is a Shell
by segedunum on Wed 11th Jun 2008 18:41 in reply to "GNOME is a Shell"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

IMO, the problem with KDE has been the fact that everything is made by the people of KDE, and third party apps sometimes have issues integrating with KDE. GNOME, on the other hand, has always been very flexible and able to accept third party apps into its environment.

I hope you have some examples to back that up, because cross-desktop application integration is all one-way traffic at the moment - from the KDE and Qt side. KDE developers came up with QtGTK so that GTK applications inherited the theme, look and feel of the native Qt and KDE environment, and Trolltech has recently done some work so that Qt applications inherit the Gnome look and feel under Gnome.

The work from the Gnome and GTK side has, thus far, been very non-existent, nevermind disappointing. The extent of integration of 'third party apps' has been to rewrite at least the front-end of another application in GTK. All the Bugzilla conversations I've seen, amongst other things, about better integration of Qt, KDE and applications written with 'other' toolkits has been met with a pretty steadfast blow-off.

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