Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Jun 2008 08:14 UTC
Gnome The KDE project saw the writing on the wall. They saw that they had reached a certain limit when it came to what could be done with the KDE 3.x series - they named it the "big friggin' wall", and decided that in order to get over that wall, incremental updates wouldn't do - they needed massive changes, a big jump, and they went for it. It's been a rough road, but it seems as if KDE 4.1 is showing signs of the vision becoming a reality. And it now seems as if several people within the GNOME community are seeing the writing on the wall too: GNOME 2.x has reached its goal - now what?
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diegoviola
Member since:
2006-08-15

X is fine, and it's progressing nicely.

You clearly have no clue of what you are talking about.

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Almindor Member since:
2006-01-16

Hmm you must've missed the whole X article a few blocks below. But even if we skip that, X is a fossil which should have died ages ago. I mean come on, manual xorg.conf in 21st century? Sure, it's irrelevant in the big picture but the thing is just getting rewritten over and over.

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sakeniwefu Member since:
2008-02-26

X is fine, and it's progressing nicely.

If you are still using a computer from 1984. Do you know Quartz? Do you seriously think X is anywhere near that? Apple obviously didn't think so.

"I'll give you my xclock when you take it from my cold, dead hands"
Okay boy. Calm down.

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

X is fine, and it's progressing nicely.

X is progressing, but that's about it:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=xserver_141&num=...

It's a very large, old and incoherent codebase that could do with a bit of revolution, and even evolution, itself.

You clearly have no clue of what you are talking about.

Hmmmmmmmmm.

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stabbyjones Member since:
2008-04-15

X is an absolute pain and is having serious issues progressing, (especially if you read two articles below.)

for me GNOME is my favourite desktop. i have no problems using compiz for my effects or not, the option is there.

GNOME doesn't need a revolution or more eye candy, it needs a better base to keep evolving the desktop GNOME users love. While i enjoy using GNOME as my default desktop i don't think GTK in it's current state has the legs.

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Coral Snake Member since:
2005-07-07

The problem with radically improving GTK+ is that it is really NOT GNOME's library. It was originally (and still is) the GUI library for the GIMP graphics application and that app has priority over GNOME where GTK+ development is concerned.

My Answer to this problem therefore would be to build GMOME 3 on another LGPL library if GNOME wants to keep
to a F/OSS + Prporietary closed source ecosystem.

Possibilities might be the X-11 only version of wxWidgets or FLTK 2. (Both of these libraries use their own widget set ala QT rather than GTK+ but still have GTK+'s LGPL status but in an even more liberal form that allows static linking in proprietary software.)

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