Linked by Adam S on Wed 18th Jun 2008 17:59 UTC, submitted by TB
Linux For years now we have heard about Linux on the desktop and its need to make a concerted effort to illustrate its value to the end user and whatnot. The point of it all being is that if we expect Linux to become a household name, we must find away to get it into the minds of the typical user, like we have seen with Windows.
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RE: Marketing.
by stabbyjones on Wed 18th Jun 2008 22:59 UTC in reply to "Marketing."
stabbyjones
Member since:
2008-04-15

it says the cult of mac is doing it's job. ;)

but in all seriousness it is all about marketing and putting linux in the face of consumers.

people have 'heard' about linux but because they only hear about it from people working in IT it turns them off. it really isn't that hard to pick up and use linux it's just that there is a complete user cluelessness about it in every way.

That and games, the one thing that kept me from full time linux for the longest amount of time was running games. in fact i still have a partition on a hard drive somewhere with vista on it, just in case a decent game comes along that isn't on my 360.

If Wine can make an easy way to install the DLL's from a product install or at least try and explain this when installing a program that would help a lot.

Wine works 1000% better than when i first started but to anyone who has never used linux before telling tham you can install some of their windows programs on linux is just going to frustrate them when they don't know how to add dll's.

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RE[2]: Marketing.
by Windows Sucks on Thu 19th Jun 2008 01:19 in reply to "RE: Marketing."
Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

But you know what there are not a lot of games for Mac, getting better but needs a lot of work. But Macs are selling like hot cakes!

Why?

Cause they just work. No matter what people say about what is better and what is not one thing that is for sure is that for most mac owners who are not techs macs just work.

And no spyware, no ton of software loading up when you boot up etc. It boots up quick, works and shuts down quick.

I have not used Ubuntu pre loaded on Dells yet. But Windows and Linux machines just dont work that smooth.

But most of the new Mac users I know are people who saw my Mac (I am an IT consultant) and thought it was great saw how much I liked it and how easy it was to use and wanted that.

Also MS office is a big plus for the Mac.

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RE[3]: Marketing.
by stabbyjones on Thu 19th Jun 2008 02:00 in reply to "RE[2]: Marketing."
stabbyjones Member since:
2008-04-15

Gamers and users are seperate people.

users just want a computer, they don't need games beyond solitare, maybe they want something pretty but ultimately they just want something that gets the job done. every os is capable of fitting these needs.

Then people who play games want games first before anything else. even on the EEEpc forum i saw a post titled "will it play WOW?".

That is how much a single thing will sway opinion.

My point was that you need to be able to fill these spaces and games are still too difficult to get running on linux.

As far as everything else is concerned i've started a lot of people on ubuntu 8.04 and moved some of them to debian. There isn't a large learning curve beyond repos and GNOME navigation.

The "they just work" opinion annoys me because every OS can just work. If OEM's started putting Linux on machines they would be doing the same thing i do. making a fresh install usable to the person taking one home for the first time.

it's up to OEM's to create a similar style of base install that includes what people need without them having to do it themselves.
the reason Macs have an advantage here is because they own all the apps people want on a mac so they are easy to bundle.

The distro's give you the base, the OEM builds the machine and customises, then the user takes it home and says "wow, it just works"

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RE[3]: Marketing.
by hobgoblin on Thu 19th Jun 2008 05:01 in reply to "RE[2]: Marketing."
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

outside of usa it sells mostly to media people out of some kind of mental inertia. that and whoever figures out that the fruit logo sells more then a hip dap...

most go and grab that machine of the shelf of ones local elecronics outlet...

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