Linked by Adam S on Thu 19th Jun 2008 14:47 UTC, submitted by M-Saunders
SuSE, openSUSE A new major release of Novell's community-supported distro openSUSE 11 is now available and can be downloaded from the mirrors. Linux Format has a hands-on look at the new installer, SLAB menu and Compiz Fusion, and weighs up whether the distro can fight competition from Ubuntu and Fedora. Is this the start of a new era for SUSE?
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RE: Comment by satan666
by Googol on Thu 19th Jun 2008 16:12 UTC in reply to "Comment by satan666"
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what has your comment to do with opensuse except for nothing ? It is about as useful as telling fat kids to stay away from Pepsi Light where you actually have Coke Classic in mind...

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RE[2]: Comment by satan666
by TLZ_ on Thu 19th Jun 2008 16:45 in reply to "RE: Comment by satan666"
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It us quite relevant that Novell are backing several OSS projects. I would even dare say it is *more* relevant than their deal. Important projects such as Evolution Mail Client are in some degree works of Novell/Ximian. They're really doing an effort to help the community and make business at the same bit. (The latter is good, because stuff that's able to make business are far more likely to gain traction than non-business friendly stuff.)

Regarding their deal with MS: I think Novell just is being pragmatic. They want to get Linux going, in the real world, and some business people have fears and they hope this will calm these fears. This is what *Novell* has decided to do, not necessarily all their employees agreed with(Miguel has criticized the deal despite being a high ranking Novell employee) and definitely not necessarily something their community agrees with.

Now, I don't agree with the deal. I believe it is/was a bad thing, but I understand why they did it and I don't let that deal blind me from seeing the good things Novell are doing! (Or stop me from supporting them in any way.)

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RE[3]: Comment by satan666
by ljgshkg on Thu 19th Jun 2008 17:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by satan666"
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Yeah. If you talk about J2EE vs .NET, I'd say .NET takes much less time to get familiar with and the time of development is quite a bit shorter (at least for me).

Many people and businesses would like to host their ASP.NET pages and services, etc. on Linux. Those are somewhat supported by Mono. However, ASP.NET and other technologices "built on" .NET Framework are not "free" like the .NET framework. Which means using Mono to operate your ASP.NET site (etc.) is arguably violating licenses of Mircoroft.

With Novel's deal, people and business can really "feel safe" and use Linux as their web servers while still implementing systems with .NET Framework.

I don't think Novel and businesses are really worry about Microsoft suing them for "patents" on Linux and those foundation open source projects. But definitely, patent and licenses of technologies built on .NET Framework is something to conisider about for businesses.

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RE[3]: Comment by satan666
by satan666 on Thu 19th Jun 2008 17:21 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by satan666"
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Regarding their deal with MS: I think Novell just is being pragmatic.

Of course they are pragmatic, they are a private company. But there are many ways of doing business. There is the fair way and there is the Microsoft way. Novell saw that they had no chance against RedHat unless they allied themselves with Microsoft. So if they can't offer a better product they can offer a patent protected one. That's really low.

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