Linked by Adam S on Thu 19th Jun 2008 14:47 UTC, submitted by M-Saunders
SuSE, openSUSE A new major release of Novell's community-supported distro openSUSE 11 is now available and can be downloaded from the mirrors. Linux Format has a hands-on look at the new installer, SLAB menu and Compiz Fusion, and weighs up whether the distro can fight competition from Ubuntu and Fedora. Is this the start of a new era for SUSE?
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Why so big??
by gan17 on Thu 19th Jun 2008 16:27 UTC
gan17
Member since:
2008-06-03

I'm not a SUSE user so please forgive my ignorance..

Can someone tell me why it's 4.3GB in size? I know it includes Gnome, 2 versions of KDE and a fancy installer, but I don't think those alone would make it 4 times bigger than most other popular distros. Does it include more genuinely useful applications compared to the competition, or is most of it just random bloatware?

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RE: Why so big??
by decriptor on Thu 19th Jun 2008 16:31 in reply to "Why so big??"
decriptor Member since:
2008-06-19

Why do you say its 4x the size of other distros?
Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso 4066110 KB or 4G
Fedora-9-i386-DVD.iso 3496758 KB or 3.4G

ubuntu I don't think has a dvd, so hard to compare. Though I think the opensuse live-cds are on part with all the rest. Not that they can get much bigger than about 700/750? ;)

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RE[2]: Why so big??
by gan17 on Thu 19th Jun 2008 16:41 in reply to "RE: Why so big??"
gan17 Member since:
2008-06-03

Sorry, I didn't consider Fedora, probably because I haven't used it either. I currently run Ubuntu and Vector Linux. I've also tried PCLinuxOS and the new PC/OS 2008. The biggest of these is around ~1GB.

I'm not bashing OpenSUSE, I just want to know what is contained within.

Edited 2008-06-19 16:41 UTC

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RE: Why so big??
by Googol on Thu 19th Jun 2008 17:09 in reply to "Why so big??"
Googol Member since:
2006-11-24

yawnnnnn. OK, If your beloved Ubuntu comes as DVD and CD, that is OK and not bloated at all. If Suse comes on a DVD and CD version it is bloat, because, after all, you know, there is only one Linux that gets repackaged over and over by the different distributions, so anything that qualifies as 4.3 GB of bloat on Suse inevitably is just as bloated on Ubuntu - can you solve that mystery for me? OK, I know you can't, I just felt like smart assing...

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RE: Why so big??
by mbharat on Thu 19th Jun 2008 19:18 in reply to "Why so big??"
mbharat Member since:
2008-06-19

Bloatware for some, is useful for others. For me latex is a must, which is included on the OpenSUSE DVD. It takes I guess around 500MB or more. And with it, I can write my journal papers without worrying about what to install.

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RE: Why so big?
by BrianMasinick on Thu 19th Jun 2008 20:02 in reply to "Why so big??"
BrianMasinick Member since:
2008-06-19

openSUSE actually has a number of ISO images available for various purposes. There are KDE and GNOME Live CD ISO images, which are about 1 CD in size, and they are available for multiple hardware platforms, then they have the big DVD. But they also have a nice 70 MB network installable ISO image, which I am using right now to upgrade an old openSUSE 10.2 image. The upgrade results in about 2 GB of changes since my previous installation was around that size.

What I am eager to find out is how much the system is improved in package management and overall responsiveness. openSUSE 10.2 was a nice desktop system, but it really croaked on my old Dell Dimension 4100 desktop system. I want to see how much better the new version can do. If it does well, I also intend to install it on a much newer and faster Lenovo 3000 model Y410 laptop with 2 GB of memory and Duo Core processors. While I know the newer laptop will run better, I have other systems that run great on that laptop. Based on how well openSUSE 11.0 does on the Dell, I may give it more "air time" elsewhere and see what it can do. I am guardedly optimistic about the possibilities.

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