Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th Jun 2008 20:28 UTC, submitted by Rahul
Back in May 2006, Sun announced during the JavaOne conference it would release Java as open source, licensed as GPL software. While it was released as GPL, it still contained about 5 percent proprietary, non-free code - the Java trap, as the FSF calls it. The FSF called to dismantle this trap, and now the IcedTea project has reached an important milestone.
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RE[3]: The Java Trap
by binarycrusader on Thu 19th Jun 2008 23:41
in reply to "RE[2]: The Java Trap"
Member since:2005-07-06
"While the individuals involved are to be congratulated on technical achievement, I still feel that the whole "Java Trap" was more political than practical.
As it was, it was impossible to simply ship a JRE or a JDK in a distribution as-is, and it was impossible for people to debug and track bugs in the tradition of open source development against such a piece of software. "
It was not impossible. Many distributions did so. It was also not impossible to debug and track bugs since the source code was available -- just not under an open license.
If anyone deserves a large amount of credit here, it is Sun for listening to their developers and doing what they asked for.
Apart from the last five percent, which we have heard nary anything from Sun on in the past two years other than "We're working on it". Net effect? You still needed a JRE or a JDK from Sun. [/q]
If you had been involved with the OpenJDK effort, you would have heard a lot more than that.
I think you're way too disconnected from the process.
Member since:2005-07-06
"It was not impossible. Many distributions did so. "
Many is nothing compared to all distribution ...
"It was also not impossible to debug and track bugs since the source code was available"
In certain case , in others it was the problem.
"I think you're way too disconnected from the process."
I know your not part of the process. Your even against the process. Your also disconnected from reality.
By being 100% GPL , it means JAVA will be used natively as opposed to a plug-in or an after tought.
Edited 2008-06-20 05:44 UTC
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2005-07-06
As it was, it was impossible to simply ship a JRE or a JDK in a distribution as-is, and it was impossible for people to debug and track bugs in the tradition of open source development against such a piece of software.
Apart from the last five percent, which we have heard nary anything from Sun on in the past two years other than "We're working on it". Net effect? You still needed a JRE or a JDK from Sun.