Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Jun 2008 23:18 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones I've seen superlative after superlative concerning the release of Firefox 3.0, and in all honesty, it is making my stomach ache. Yes, Firefox 3.0 is a great release. It has a slicker interface (the UI on Vista looks quite pretty) and the use of native widgets in Linux is a very, very welcome addition. On top of that, it actually delivers what I was craving for the most from my favourite Windows web browser: much improved performance. But does Firefox 3.0 change the web, or alter the way we use the intertubes?
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Finally Zoom works
by Wondercool on Fri 20th Jun 2008 23:47 UTC
Wondercool
Member since:
2005-07-08

Agreed it's evolution, but almost all changes are really good.

Especially zooming now also scale pictures (like Opera)
and bookmarks and history are a bit smarter.

But let's face it, it doesn't matter, FF still has the magic of extensions, you can make it into anything you like.

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RE: Finally Zoom works
by WorknMan on Sat 21st Jun 2008 03:09 in reply to "Finally Zoom works"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Agreed it's evolution, but almost all changes are really good.


Yeah... almost. Haven't upgraded to final yet, but in the last RC I tried, multiple select (the feature I was most excited about) was complete ass. Go to Amazon and try to use multiple select (holding down the CTRL key) on some of the customer reviews to see what I'm talking about.

Oh, and for even more fun, try multi selct while using the mouse's scroll wheel to scroll down the page.

Edited 2008-06-21 03:10 UTC

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RE: Finally Zoom works
by Invincible Cow on Sat 21st Jun 2008 07:43 in reply to "Finally Zoom works"
Invincible Cow Member since:
2006-06-24

Frankly I'm sick of the "it has extensions, it can do anything attidute". I only want mouse gestures, and Firefox doesn't have an extension that actually works all the time (which is the whole purpose of mouse gestures).

No, I don't want mouse gestures that use a ton of CPU, stops working in forms and stops working randomly.

Maybe the idea is good, but as long as the extensions aren't checked for quality, it's a bit annoying really.

And what "slick UI"? I can't see it. On Windows I only see:
- Fade in, but not out(!) on tab buttons.
- Menu items aren't the same size. Some are 17px, others are 20px.
- Moving the cursor quickly over a menu header makes it look hovered, enen when not until a timeout.
- If you open the menu with the keyboard while the cursor is over a menu item, you need to move the cursor 2 pixels to activate that menu. The correct is 1 pixel.
- They still can't draw dotted rectangles around active controls without getting two dots beside each other (there should always be a space in between).
- They can't draw the dotted rectangles in the correct size either. They should be around the text on checkbox controls, but they are much bigger. And mis-aligned.
- The menu is placed in a toolbar, and they forgot to remove the top border on the toolbar.
- Etc...

Only very small things, but when there are so many of them, the UI simply isn't polished or slick.

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RE[2]: Finally Zoom works
by tux68 on Sat 21st Jun 2008 08:13 in reply to "RE: Finally Zoom works"
tux68 Member since:
2006-10-24

Frankly I'm sick of the "it has extensions, it can do anything attidute". I only want mouse gestures, and Firefox doesn't have an extension that actually works all the time (which is the whole purpose of mouse gestures).

No, I don't want mouse gestures that use a ton of CPU, stops working in forms and stops working randomly.


FireGestures 1.1.2 works here without a hiccup or any noticeable CPU usage..

Maybe the idea is good, but as long as the extensions aren't checked for quality, it's a bit annoying really.


The entire point of extensions is to give anyone the power to extend the browser; there is no central authority to guarantee uniform quality. However you can use the Mozilla website to give feedback and find a general rating for each extension.

And what "slick UI"? I can't see it. On Windows I only see:
...snipped list of issues...


I was unable to reproduce any of the above problems but i'm working on Linux so that may explain the difference.

Only very small things, but when there are so many of them, the UI simply isn't polished or slick.


Well your experience is very different from mine, but the real gauge should be how it stacks up against the alternatives. Personally I have a hard time getting very excited about a browser in the first place, but generally i find FF3 to exceed expectations and perform better than any other browser. I even like the Awesome bar ;o)

Cheers.

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