Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th Jun 2008 09:49 UTC
3D News, GL, DirectX Yesterday, we reported on the statement several kernel developers had signed that urged hardware manufacturers to open up their Linux modules and drivers. "We, the undersigned Linux kernel developers, consider any closed-source Linux kernel module or driver to be harmful and undesirable," the statement read. Nvidia, which delivers probably the most prominent closed-source Linux driver, has reiterated its position concerning this matter.
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voidspace
Member since:
2008-06-25

"So why would any Linux user still choose Nvidia?"

And if distributions refuse to include Nvidia drivers, why would anyone with an Nvidia card choose Linux?

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kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

If you have an old NV card like the TNT2 you are just f--ked .. NO 3D for you in new distros .. even their closed source crap will not help you.
Nvidea does not have the power to support every card anymore .. this problem will only get worse.
So just do not buy Nvidia anymore.
This is something that is unlikely to happen with open source drivers ( just look at the old ATI 7500 cards .. their 3D support is excellent out of the box .. and I am sure this will be case for new cards too by the end of the year. )

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

This is something that is unlikely to happen with open source drivers ( just look at the old ATI 7500 cards .. their 3D support is excellent out of the box

Very true. I have owned several older Radeons and still own a Radeon 9100 and they all are very, very well supported with the open-source drivers. Of course, the development has been slow because they've had to reverse engineer everything and then reinvent the wheel. Still, they work great, out-of-the-box, and even an old 7500 can run Compiz effects and such just peachy with the OSS drivers.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"So why would any Linux user still choose Nvidia?"

And if distributions refuse to include Nvidia drivers, why would anyone with an Nvidia card choose Linux?


Hot new hardware now includes mini-notebooks, such as the EEEPC, the MSI Wind, the Acer Aspire One and the not-yet-released Dell E. They all run Linux.

None of them will be including Nvidia graphics chips I would imagine ... they all would use either an Intel chip or perhpas now an ATI chip. Since these both have open source drivers and specification documentation made available (so that the open source drivers are no longer based on reverse engineering, but instead are based on actual hardware documentation) ... it means that the kernel can be updated, or Xorg can be updated, and the video driver updated at the same time just by a re-compile.

Therefore, either Intel graphics or ATI graphics is far more desirable for a Linux system than nvidia graphics.

Even Via Chrome graphics might become more viable for Linux than nvidia :

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjUyMg

Since there is a new and growing breed of machines for which an open Linux driver for all of the hardware is a necessity, nvidia will be missing out on a market opportunity here.

I know that nvidia's attitude on this topic lost me as a customer ... put it that way.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

some of us use more than the software license when making a choice. If nVidia can provide solid X modules and timely updates then that's fine with me. I don't buy the "we want to protect our IP" excuse but my end user need is functional quality not how it got there.

I'd love to see them release specs see if they can keep up with or contribute too community development. ATI of old couldn't keep up and wouldn't release specs so I voted with my wallet. The license is not the ultimate decision metric for me though.

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fithisux Member since:
2006-01-22

You can use BSD or Solaris. Period.

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