Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th Jun 2008 22:47 UTC, submitted by Flatland_Spider
Windows We're really on the subject of software installation issues on OSNews lately, and this story, making its rounds on the internet, fits in quite well. Back in the day, during the antitrust lawsuits against Microsoft, Microsoft had to make a whole slew of corporate email public. In light of Gates' imminent withdrawal from Microsoft, SeattlePI dug up a little gem among these emails, one in which Bill Gates goes on a full-blown rant about the difficulties he had trying to download and install Windows MovieMaker, back in 2003.
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Well!!
by Hakime on Thu 26th Jun 2008 02:00 UTC
Hakime
Member since:
2005-11-16

"The email is massively long, but I'm reprinting it here anyway, for a number of reasons. One, it gives a good insight into how Microsoft is very well capable of criticising itself, something some other companies in the same business could take a few pointers from."

That does not make sense to say that. I really doubt that you know what is going on internally in every compagny out there, so your point is nonsense. Microsoft never makes such statement in public as any other compagny. Moreover what we see here is an internal email that should never have been made public, and any other compagny has such internal emails where employees communicates freely. So again what's surprising?

No, the real surprising thing for me is that Gates who is/was supposed to be the Chief Software Architect at Microsoft does not have a clue on what is going on, what the platform is doing and heck he does not how to fix an issue on its own system. I mean, come on, this guy is supposed to be in the computer industry so he should have gone to see the devs, talk to them and even contribute to fix the issue.

But i guess, being a Software Architect does not mean anything at Microsoft and this is all the drama of this compagny....

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RE: Well!!
by BSDfan on Thu 26th Jun 2008 04:15 in reply to "Well!!"
BSDfan Member since:
2007-03-14

Bill gates isn't a programmer, and based on this email, much smarter then a novice computer user. (Elementary school qualifications?)

His resume: Some BASIC experience.

Do yourselves a favour, find a real operating system.. where the project leader, is actually a *true* developer. ;)

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RE[2]: Well!!
by Alleister on Thu 26th Jun 2008 06:15 in reply to "RE: Well!!"
Alleister Member since:
2006-05-29

Actually, he is. Read something about Microsofts early years, he even is a more gifted Programmer than the average CS students i encountered based on what software Gates wrote.

Of course when MS reached a certain size it wouldn't have made much sense for him to implement MS Apps himself.

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RE[2]: Well!!
by wanker90210 on Thu 26th Jun 2008 08:41 in reply to "RE: Well!!"
wanker90210 Member since:
2007-10-26

I just finished "The rise and fall of Commodore" in the loo (a good book but you're not really a fan of the Gould + Ali combo when you're done). The author gave billg quite some credits when it comes to programming.

I'd rather work at msft than apple without any hesitation whatsoever. Yes, Darth Ballmer and his evil sidekicks are part of the bargain, but Jobs is not and msft have some very cool stuff.

I have a 24" imac, Linux (FC & CentOS) and XP. I like all of them and I occasionally hate all of them.

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RE[2]: Well!!
by dbodner on Thu 26th Jun 2008 14:02 in reply to "RE: Well!!"
dbodner Member since:
2007-07-01

Bill gates isn't a programmer, and based on this email, much smarter then a novice computer user. (Elementary school qualifications?)

His resume: Some BASIC experience.

Do yourselves a favour, find a real operating system.. where the project leader, is actually a *true* developer. ;)


I'm a long time linux user, and really dislike windows and what it's become. That being said, you've completely missed the point of his email.

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RE[2]: Well!!
by tomcat on Thu 26th Jun 2008 17:27 in reply to "RE: Well!!"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

Bill gates isn't a programmer, and based on this email, much smarter then a novice computer user. (Elementary school qualifications?) His resume: Some BASIC experience. Do yourselves a favour, find a real operating system.. where the project leader, is actually a *true* developer. ;)


You don't know WTF you're talking about. Gates wrote one of the first BASIC interpreters for the MITS Altair 8800. He wrote it in assembly language, and it fit into 4K (8K, for a later version) on extremely primitive hardware. Very few of you ass-clowns could do that TODAY, so lighten up on the guy. He's a true developer in every sense. Check the ideology at the door.

Edited 2008-06-26 17:28 UTC

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